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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #325 on: May 05, 2014, 06:53:48 AM »
First time I have really seen those kits, except in a box.
What a great source of bits for a Steampunky type project.

What a great way to spend a rainy day. :)

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #326 on: May 07, 2014, 04:09:26 AM »
Wow those are some cool models, Gingie!

Great to see the younger generation getting involved in the hobby!

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #327 on: July 16, 2014, 10:20:52 PM »
Lately I've been wanting to build a C-RAM Centurion (Think Phalanx CIWS on a HEMMT). Its designed for relatively static vital point defence against rockets and mortars; incoming projectiles on a ballistic trajectory. It relies on a very high volume of fire to defeat the incoming round before it lands on the base.

I started wondering what a mobile version would look like - something that could move with the forward elements of a Mech Brigade. And instead of smaller calibre and high volume fire, something larger & smarter with lower rates of fire. Similar to AHEAD rounds, but even bigger. Like the C-RAM, this too would have autonomous target tracking & identification. Like the ADATS, this would also have a ground engagement mode, either as direct fire, or as an area suppression weapon (employed the same way as a 40mm Nk 19 or 50 cal, but on a much larger scale)

Here's the mock up so far.

The radar is shown at its highest postion. It has another height half as low, and a travel / stowed position. The gun elevates from 0-80 degrees The 50mm Gatling...fellas, I'm torn. It looks "OK" in real life. Not great. In the photo, it has a decidedly WH40K feel; a look which I am not going for. It's a bit of a deal breaker for me at this point. I've got 3 options:

1. Leave it as is, it will all look better under a coat of primer
2. Rebuild the gatling gun from scratch to about 75% of its current size
3. Keep the gatling gun and adapt it and the radar to the Bandai M61A5 Semovente

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #328 on: July 16, 2014, 10:49:17 PM »
some other views...





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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #329 on: July 16, 2014, 11:25:13 PM »
I really like this one, Gingie! Looks like one tough customer that really packs a punch!

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #330 on: July 16, 2014, 11:29:19 PM »
Cheers Brian!

I've photoshopped some options for that Gatling gun. Still undecided.



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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #331 on: July 16, 2014, 11:56:51 PM »
Mailman just came by. Legend ADATS resin conversion .....no words...should have sent...a poet.

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #332 on: July 17, 2014, 12:06:34 AM »
The 75% gun version looks more realistic Gingie

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #333 on: July 17, 2014, 12:46:32 AM »
yeah, that's what I was afraid of! Hardest part will be drilling 6 even spaced holes in a disc to support the new thinner barrels.


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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #334 on: July 17, 2014, 03:53:08 AM »
Honestly, if you are going for a realistic look, the 50mm Gatling concept doesn't really work for me.  I think anything above about 30 - 37mm is just too big.
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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #335 on: July 17, 2014, 04:29:43 AM »
yeah, I rebuilt the gun just now using tube and LAV roadwheel hubs. 8 barrels instead of 6. Measured the bbl opening, and it's 1mm, which is pretty much 35mm in 1/35th scale  ;)

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #336 on: July 17, 2014, 04:42:30 AM »
Makes sense.  IIRC, the 37mm gun of the T249 Vigilante was the biggest seriously considered:

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #337 on: July 17, 2014, 05:43:32 AM »
Graeme, the image Greg linked to showing the T249 Vigilante 37mm air defense weapons system armed with the Springfield Armory T250 37mm Gatling Gunis a good example of how your Gatling gun should be mounted.  The ammunition feed system was mounted on the left side of the turret and consisted of a large circular magazine that fed in towards the center where the rounds were transferred to the gun breech.  As you can see, the motor drive unit and the breech are hidden away in the mass of the turret.  This would give you the option to retain the longer gun barrels and shift the mass of the weapon further back to regain some balance.  It also solves the problem of where your ammunition magazine is located and how it would feed to your weapon. 

Check the T250 link to see the actual length of the weapon and how much of it is hidden away in the T249 Vigilante turret.  Looks like half the length of the weapon (the shiny metal part) in that one image. 

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #338 on: July 17, 2014, 09:08:31 AM »
Cool, forgot about the T249 being 37mm!

I still want this thing to have presence, so I'm going to keep the length of the gun the same, maybe even make the motor longer. The ammo will be fed by chute (similar to GAU-8 etc) from the turret to the gun.

Pics to follow shortly.

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #339 on: July 17, 2014, 09:50:55 AM »
Ya, the 35mm 8 barrel Gatling gun might be overkill...but its too much fun to leave out. Still a lot of details to be added, but, I think I can get it done without another trip back to the shelf of doom.




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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #340 on: July 17, 2014, 09:53:43 AM »
I thought wH40K when I saw the original pix.. it did look probiscus heavy.

Perhaps tribarrel at 50mm but the concept is working for me.

The foldy uppey layout looks terrific

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #341 on: July 17, 2014, 10:12:30 AM »
Wicked!  >:D

What were the dark grey/black bits originally for?
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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #342 on: July 17, 2014, 10:13:49 AM »
Oh yeah, tri barrel, there's an idea for another project!

This one ended up with 8 barrels simply due to the fact there are 8 bolts on an AVGP wheel. I just drilled them out, working my way through 4 bits until I got to 3/32". 

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #343 on: July 17, 2014, 10:16:36 AM »
The black parts are from a Kotobukia 72nd scale 'rifle' for a Gundam type robot. It's been chopped, reglued, chopped again, maybe 1/2 of it remains  :)

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #344 on: July 17, 2014, 11:02:14 AM »
Cool, forgot about the T249 being 37mm!
If I am not mistaken, the T250 is still considered to be the largest Gatling gun weapon ever developed and that was based on the limitations of feeding ammunition to the gun.  A 50mm size weapon is certainly going to pack a lot of weight and the feed system for something that size would be interesting to see in real life.  A flexible ammunition chute is going to be a real nice feature and I look forward to what you come up with.  Though zip-ties are a nice solution for creating a suitable substitute in this case I fear they will be too small. 
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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #345 on: July 17, 2014, 11:17:01 AM »
Interesting.  Very interesting [he said while he stroked his beard]

I actually have something similar being planned, albeit a little different.  ;D

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #346 on: July 18, 2014, 12:24:12 AM »
Oooh, I want to hear what you have planned Rickshaw!

I'm curious how this will look under a coat of primer. If all goes well, possibly by tonight. At any rate, I have a much clearer idea how to do the AD Version of my Bandai M61A5.

Not much left to do. Just trying to max out the use of the Leopard Turret parts on this one. Have to resist the temptation to "do" something with the big white areas on the turret. I think best case will be to leave them along and maybe show off a neat cam scheme (hexagons?) on that area.






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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #347 on: July 18, 2014, 04:16:51 AM »
The gun is absolutely first-rate and fits like a charm!

All that detection gear really looks the business too.

I especially like the curved side hatch.

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #348 on: July 18, 2014, 06:41:19 AM »
That really all works, it has the chunky, purposeful look

When tied together with the sensor array it has that futuristic "project" type feel.

Love it. Be great to see under paint.

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Re: Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #349 on: July 18, 2014, 03:17:25 PM »
Woh! :icon_surprised:

I wasn't sure how I was feeling about this build until I saw the last pic.

Man, it's awesome! :D

The sensor suite & its fold-away system are brilliant &, far from being over-engineered, are exactly right for safe stowage of those sensitive pieces of equipment whilst on the move.

I'm trying to figure out where I'd put cable cutters to prevent SpecOps, guerrillas, insurgents, etc. from ripping off the sensor suite with strategically placed wires, though.
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