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Offline Gingie

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Gingie's Build Thread
« on: December 19, 2012, 09:55:55 AM »
This one's from a few years ago - the Jordanian Falcon 2. References were pretty scarce so the Mk 1 eyeball was used to measure the turret. Once it was built, I just could not give it the factory demonstrator overall tan scheme though. The Whatif monkey got on my back and I painted as an in-service Falcon 2 with fictional Brigade / Unit markings.

The final build before painting:


 
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Re: Jordanian Falcon 2
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2012, 10:45:22 AM »
.../wow/. Amazing work!
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Re: Jordanian Falcon 2
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2012, 10:47:23 AM »
Glad to see this one again!  Was following that with great interest back on what if modelers.  I think the WIP images you had shared there were of just the turret under construction.  Now as I see it again, I can see where a similar concept could have been accomplished using the M60A2 turret with a sensor package replacing the TC cupola.  Hmmmmmmmm...
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Offline Gingie

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Re: Jordanian Falcon 2
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2012, 12:11:07 PM »
Cheers!

Jeff, yes, I do still have those photos buried somewhere on a hard drive. The finished ones are on Flickr, I'll throw them up here. If there's any interest I can post the WIP's and maybe explain a bit better how I go from A->B

 
 
 
 

Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: Jordanian Falcon 2
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2012, 12:18:10 PM »
Now those are the money shots.  Lovely.  That's still a pretty big turret, isn't it?

Cheers,

Logan

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Re: Jordanian Falcon 2
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2012, 12:22:30 PM »
here's a pic of the real one:






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Re: Jordanian Falcon 2
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2012, 12:27:16 PM »
Logan - yes, the turret is big! I think the main savings were in frontal area (narrower), 1 less crew member replaced by an autoloader, and enhanced crew survivability, with the commander / gunner being seated below the hull roof. But I think there's got to be a trade off in situational awareness, and that 4th crewman comes in handy for other vehicle chores. I think Stryker MGS might have the same-ish layout, so it may have been proven effective.

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Re: Jordanian Falcon 2
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2012, 12:45:52 PM »
Holy crap! That is one beauty of a tank! Yours looks more real than the real thing... which looks like a model. Please post the WIP!

Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: Jordanian Falcon 2
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2012, 12:47:25 PM »
Yeah, the pictures of the real thing are all from flattering angles, I guess.  Your model allows it to be easily shot from above.  When you see it from that angle you remember that there's no such thing as a free lunch.  It's the right tradeoff to make, I think, but it's important to remember that it's still a tradeoff.

Cheers,

Logan

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Re: Jordanian Falcon 2
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2012, 01:02:03 PM »
It looks like the TC and gunner have close to zero visibility to the rear of the turret. If I were a member of the crew, I'd stick a cheap webcam to the back of the turret...

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Re: Jordanian Falcon 2
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2012, 08:48:09 PM »
I've liked the Falcon ever since I first saw the prototype's pictures.  It is an excellent effort to reduce the turret's size without having the handicaps that an overhead mount produces.   I must say, I like your model.  Its an excellent effort.   Seeing it though, I wonder about the vertical front to the magazine on the sides of the turret.  I'd have thought that was an obvious shot-trap and it would have been better angled?

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Re: Jordanian Falcon 2
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2012, 10:34:38 PM »
WOW.....
I really like this Ginge, I would also like to see the work in progress pics of it too.Like the others have said your model looks less a lot more real than the actual one does in the pic.
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Re: Jordanian Falcon 2
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2012, 05:29:35 AM »
That's a seriously good lookin' hunk o' armor!  :)
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Re: Jordanian Falcon 2
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2012, 05:48:40 AM »
I should mention the 1:1 scale pics are of a later prototype or perhaps even an engineering audit version. The ones I was working off of were slightly different, ie the big bands of 2" bolts running up the autoloader.

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Gingie's Build Thread
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2012, 07:16:01 AM »
Whaa? RCAF in the Land section? It's OK, this is from 446 Sqn, RCAF Regiment, tasked with provided airfield security and low level AD for Air Expeditionary Wing.

Started life as an Italeri LAV 8x8. Nowadays, I'd simply use the Trumpeter 6x6 AVGP hull (more on that in another post  ;) )

Upper rear hull gets the ends chopped off, middle lower hull gets a segment removed between 1st & 3rd axle. Those sponsons were the tricksies yes they were. Should have bought stock in Tamiya Putty....

 

And there was much sanding...
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