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Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« on: December 30, 2011, 04:00:17 AM »
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To begin with, let's have some inspiration:



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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 04:03:13 AM »
...and now an idea:  single Seat F-14 anyone?



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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2011, 04:06:14 AM »
Russianized, Tomcatski (incorporating the AL-31FPs, canards and IRST ball):



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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 07:33:22 AM »
Really evocative shot especially with the verse.

I did a few of the F-14 (46 in total) with some including two Bomb/Strike Cat variants and a Recce Cat.  I also tagged Mk 82s on an F-14A for the Corps, added Genies for a bunch of AF birds and Brit weapons for the RAF & RN.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 09:57:16 AM »
Fleet ASATCAP F-14 Tomcat armed with the ASM-135 ASAT.  I have a couple of the ASAT shapes from the very expensive Hasegawa F-15 Eagle kit just for such a whim.  In 1/72nd scale the ASAT shape was available in one of the ESCI F-15 kits.  The ASAT was also available in 1/32nd scale - found in the Revell F-15 Eagle and Strike Eagle boxes and some company offered it with one of their 1/144th scale F-15 kits but I do not recall the company/brand name. 
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 11:01:16 AM »
Jeff, I think the 144th were Dragon.  I'd picked up a couple for the kids and noticed the weapon in amongst it all.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2012, 07:59:13 AM »
Here is the Grumman YF-33A Bobcat:



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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2012, 01:20:12 PM »
Well, the Osprey Air Combat on the F-14 has a model of one in Thunderbirds markings from the final effort to sell it to the USAF.  I do think I now understand the plumbing enough to properly locate a flying boom receptacle for USAF variants and I'm scheming possibilities there (and, contrawise, how to do the probe and drogue fit on a navalized F-15).
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 04:36:17 AM »
Hints at what could have been:




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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2012, 06:44:24 AM »
The second one would've likely brought us the Bombcat much, much earlier.  The first one could be either the final, minimum-change proposal for NORAD use or the F-14IMI proposal (USAF Interceptors has some most useful photos of a model of this one).

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2012, 07:22:03 AM »
Did quite a few Tomcat profiles back in the day including Marine & Air Force variants.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 12:04:56 PM »
Some kinda-whiffy armament options (trials and mock-ups) for the Tomcat:

ACIMD (proposed AIM-54 replacement)



AGM-84 Harpoon (with Mk 84 in the tunnel)





Dual AIM-9 Sidewinder





AM-88 HARM



Rockeye



Mk 82



Dual AIM-120 AMRAAM



And the pièce de résistance, the AGM-53A Condor

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2012, 12:53:37 PM »
Wot!  No mention of HAWK SAM???

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2012, 12:54:02 PM »
How about a FAA Tomcat FGR.2 and an Aeronavale Tomcat II with the TF30s replaced by RR/Allison/SNECMA Spey 300s (afterburning TF41s with M53-style exhaust nozzles) and other upgrades.  There has to be at least one testbed/prototype in "raspberry ripple" with British marking on one side and French markings on the other.  Armament upgrades could include various missiles in service with those air arms.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2012, 12:57:14 PM »
Mmmm....Aeronavale F-14
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2012, 01:12:35 PM »
A ramjet-powered version of the Super 530D for AIM-54-range work?
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2012, 01:15:35 PM »
Wot!  No mention of HAWK SAM???

I'm thinking of a combination between either F-14 and warship armed with their respective adopted HAWK or F-14 armed with the AIM-97 Seekbat and existing AAW warships.
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2012, 01:24:23 PM »
For defending a suitable area, F-14's operating their own armament (AIM-54 or replacement(s) thereof) as well as taking over guidance of ground-launched Nike-Phoenix missiles.  The Nike-Phoenix was a proposed major upgrade and overhaul of the Nike-Hercules.  Of course, if one had a suitable airborne platform, one could combine AEW and AI radars with long-range AAMs to add another layer to the defense.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2012, 01:27:19 PM »
A ramjet-powered version of the Super 530D for AIM-54-range work?
More like one with an integral rocket/ramjet set-up.  The Russian missile designers are good with those and the ASMP was a good attempt for an AGM.  Vought proved it out in the USA with the ALVRJ but never managed to get any production orders for derivatives.  FWIW, the Hughes competitor with Vought for that R&D contract used a modified AIM-54 airframe.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2012, 01:22:20 PM »
Wot!  No mention of HAWK SAM???


I'm thinking of a combination between either F-14 and warship armed with their respective adopted HAWK or F-14 armed with the AIM-97 Seekbat and existing AAW warships.


And with that in mind, I pasted these together for the "adopted HAWK" scenario.




I wonder who else (other than Iran) might get the F-14, even if it's some stripped-down version, and then end up looking for an alternative to the Phoenix missile (perhaps because the imported F-14 is of a stripped-down version that does not support the missile)......
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2012, 03:23:10 PM »
A JASDF one would be cool!
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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2012, 09:39:32 PM »
Did a profile of a plain Jane F-14A in JASDF markings back in 08.

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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2012, 11:42:02 AM »
A JASDF one would be cool!

Did a profile of a plain Jane F-14A in JASDF markings back in 08.


I actually remember seeing a Taiwanese news article speculating on a rumour that Japan was planning to acquire a small aircraft carrier "optimised for air defense" with 32 F-14As for carrier air wing and- that's where it gets wild- laser CIWS!

Now it's rumours and speculations from Taiwanese media, so there's no way for me to ascertain the amount of truth in it.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2012, 08:23:50 AM »
Brought to you by xinhui at china-defense.com forum

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2012, 09:27:33 PM »
Oh that is interesting!!
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