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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #50 on: December 12, 2012, 04:14:30 PM »
How about an Allison license built Spey 202 powered F-14A?  No more powerful than the TF-30 in the F-14A but I suspect a lot more reliable, fuel efficient and easier to fly as well as providing a level of commonality with the A-7E.
Actually, I'd prefer the demonstrated performance improvement of an afterburning TF41 to a Spey 202.  back in 1967, Allison was demonstrating a reliable 27,000 lbt in afterburner from a TF41 and that was without a good nozzle on it.  Yeah, I know that the TF41 is a later model Spey but I think it works better here.  Call it a Spey 300 and fit it to FAA Tomcat FGR.2's; collaborate with SNECMA, too, and use a nozzle similar to that of the M53 and you have an engine for the Aeronavale's Tomcats.
An Allison Spey variant was the losing contender to the TF30 back in the 60's.  Looking at the service histories of the TF41/Spey vs the TF30 it is clear the wrong engine won.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2012, 02:18:35 AM »
F-14 Strike [Tom-]Cat armed with 4 X AGM-69 SRAM-N (N=Naval version with ARM capability)
Using the aero-shape of the Phoenix pallets to carry them?

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #52 on: December 13, 2012, 05:37:50 AM »
F-14 Strike [Tom-]Cat armed with 4 X AGM-69 SRAM-N (N=Naval version with ARM capability)
Using the aero-shape of the Phoenix pallets to carry them?

Of course!  Should have included that in the original comment I suspect to keep things clear, eh?
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #53 on: March 17, 2013, 01:31:03 AM »


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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #54 on: March 17, 2013, 02:53:00 AM »
Interesting
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #55 on: March 25, 2013, 01:29:02 PM »



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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #56 on: March 25, 2013, 10:30:52 PM »
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #57 on: May 14, 2013, 05:55:12 PM »
What about boom refueling for a USAF F-14?
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #58 on: May 15, 2013, 12:34:56 AM »
What about boom refueling for a USAF F-14?
Assuming that you wanted to minimize the changes relative to the USN fuel system, the obvious location would be in the right side of the nose, just forward of the windscreen.  This would minimize the extra changes to plumb the boom receptacle into the existing refueling plumbing.  Done carefully, you might be able to retain probe and drogue capability.  I have been pondering this with an eye toward USAF variants.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #59 on: May 15, 2013, 02:45:46 AM »
I wonder if they would feel comfortable with a boom receptacle right in front of the cockpit?
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #60 on: May 15, 2013, 04:15:09 AM »
I wonder if they would feel comfortable with a boom receptacle right in front of the cockpit?
F-105D/F/G had one in that location.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #61 on: May 15, 2013, 04:43:18 PM »
Good point

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #62 on: May 15, 2013, 04:55:16 PM »
What a photo  :)
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #63 on: May 15, 2013, 11:23:11 PM »
The YF-17 Cobra had one in that location right in front of the cockpit too. A quite cramped nose with radar, gun and boom receptacle.  ???

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #64 on: May 16, 2013, 02:41:52 AM »
Well, I stand convinced...which is great for a plan I am hatching... ;)
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #65 on: May 16, 2013, 07:18:44 AM »
I wonder if they would feel comfortable with a boom receptacle right in front of the cockpit?
F-105D/F/G had one in that location.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #66 on: May 16, 2013, 08:17:57 AM »
::snicker:: I was thinking of that image, but didn't have the opportunity to go looking for it. :D

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #67 on: May 16, 2013, 08:32:04 AM »
*groans* That's almost as bad as some of the nose-art painted on KB-29 tankers in the early days...

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #68 on: May 16, 2013, 10:31:27 AM »
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #69 on: September 16, 2013, 03:21:40 AM »




interesting radomes
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« Reply #70 on: September 16, 2013, 11:35:16 AM »


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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #71 on: September 16, 2013, 11:56:14 AM »



interesting radomes

Now that is a target rich environment!

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #72 on: December 13, 2013, 06:56:38 AM »


Gunship Gray  ???
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #73 on: December 13, 2013, 10:12:42 AM »
Though the drawing's still unfinished, how about the F-14 earlier in its development as the G-303D?

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #74 on: December 14, 2013, 02:59:56 AM »
As seen here:

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