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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2012, 03:08:25 AM »
I wonder if they changed the radar altogether or just modified it or otherwise have another form of guidance...or maybe it got no further then a fit-up?
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2012, 10:26:04 AM »
I'm thinking that it might be possible to alter the software to work with the AA-10 missile's radar.  That could offer some interesting retrofit possibilities.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2012, 05:41:43 AM »
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2012, 08:39:32 AM »
Anyone interested in trying his/her hands at a Tomcat- or Tomcat-21-based counterpart to the Super Hornet or Silent Eagle?  ;)
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2012, 08:52:55 AM »
I've done a number of developed Tomcats over the years, including these:






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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2012, 11:00:24 AM »
John, I always really like those different chin sensor versions you made. I still think they are some of the better and more subtle Tomcat whifs out there  :)
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2012, 06:18:17 PM »
Anyone interested in trying his/her hands at a Tomcat- or Tomcat-21-based counterpart to the Super Hornet or Silent Eagle?  ;)

Hmmm...I like the idea of a stealth F-14.
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2012, 07:54:27 PM »
Thanks for that Ben.

Not forgetting the 'normal' Tomcats in less than normal markings too:







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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2012, 04:14:48 AM »
was there also not a model of the Tomcat with a single vertical tail fin too?


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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2012, 04:15:59 AM »
Another photo of fixed wing proposal:

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2012, 04:28:17 AM »
Mmmm....Aeronavale F-14


Wonder how many of the Matra Mica could be mounted on the F-14FN? 



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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2012, 09:55:36 AM »
was there also not a model of the Tomcat with a single vertical tail fin too?


Yes indeed:



I've been thinking of trying a production version in 1/72 using a spare 1/48 vertical tail and extended ventral fins rather than the folding ventrals on this mockup.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2012, 05:30:08 PM »
How about a super VTOL version with the TF-30s replaced with RR Pegasus engines each in 3 poster configuration?
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2012, 05:19:01 AM »
Always an odd scheme...

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2012, 01:00:48 PM »
Anyone interested in trying his/her hands at a Tomcat- or Tomcat-21-based counterpart to the Super Hornet or Silent Eagle?  ;)
Let's see - replacing the existing TCS and IRST with a scaled-up version of the F-35's EOTS would be easy enough, use a 1/48 "SNIPER" pod on a 1/72 Tomcat.  Modify the nozzles along the lines of the LOAN nozzles and give them a short extension to resemble the AVEN nozzle tested on a F-16 would do for a start.  Follow that by replacing a bunch of the external scoops with ones worked into the inlets and add RCS deflector/flow straightener vanes to each inlet as used on the X-32 and you'd have a good start.  I'd definitely go with the frameless windscreen proposed for the Tomcat-21.  The most challenging part of modelling a Tomcat-21 would be the enlarged wings.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2012, 05:19:13 AM »
What to do with your old F-14s...well the late Len Cormier proposed using some as space launchers:

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2012, 08:15:29 AM »
Why does it need an enlarge on Sniper-XR? I thought I saw something somewhere about LockMart proposing to back-fit the EOTS into a Sniper-size pod... Tomcat-21 extensions, I'm thinking just use the -A glove vane leading-edge as a template with a straight-line from the tip back to the glove-edge, perhaps a Super Flanker-style mini-canard fitted there.

Also, I recall having read something somewhere about Grumman proposing a CFT-equipped variant for the IDF... anyone have anything on that, or ideas what it might look like?
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2012, 12:57:57 PM »
Why does it need an enlarge on Sniper-XR? I thought I saw something somewhere about LockMart proposing to back-fit the EOTS into a Sniper-size pod... Tomcat-21 extensions, I'm thinking just use the -A glove vane leading-edge as a template with a straight-line from the tip back to the glove-edge, perhaps a Super Flanker-style mini-canard fitted there.

Also, I recall having read something somewhere about Grumman proposing a CFT-equipped variant for the IDF... anyone have anything on that, or ideas what it might look like?
Well, likely they could as they make both.  I was thinking of using the scaleorama'd Sniper pod to get the full flexibility of the EOTS as it's installed on the JSF and that takes a bit more room than a 1/72 pod has.

As for CFTs, the only approach that seems workable would be the one pitched to the USAF as part of Grumman's IMI proposal.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2012, 03:26:55 PM »
And another F-14 iteration which looks a bit like a heresy.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #44 on: October 22, 2012, 04:37:07 PM »

But what happened to Maverick's postings? They all seem to have been deleted.


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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2012, 11:45:58 AM »
Been looking through a lot of material that appeared during the run-up to the F-15 design award.  There's one design that appears to be a cross between a F-14 and the wings and forward fuselage/cockpit of a F-105.  That got me thinking, how about a VHAX design submitted by a Grumman/Republic team (call it "Long Island Aerospace") for a replacement for the RA/A-5.  I haven't done a physical match-up, but a F-105F/G cockpit  and forward fuselage mated to a F-14 center & rear fuselage and wing could be interesting.  *chuckle* Retain the dual refueling capability (probe and drogue as well as flying boom) and you might be about to sell it to the USAF, too.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #46 on: December 11, 2012, 05:23:09 PM »
How about an Allison license built Spey 202 powered F-14A?  No more powerful than the TF-30 in the F-14A but I suspect a lot more reliable, fuel efficient and easier to fly as well as providing a level of commonality with the A-7E.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #47 on: December 11, 2012, 05:30:26 PM »
Random idea:  F-14 with side-be-side seating ala F-111B or Su-33KUB:

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #48 on: December 12, 2012, 03:02:34 AM »
How about an Allison license built Spey 202 powered F-14A?  No more powerful than the TF-30 in the F-14A but I suspect a lot more reliable, fuel efficient and easier to fly as well as providing a level of commonality with the A-7E.
Actually, I'd prefer the demonstrated performance improvement of an afterburning TF41 to a Spey 202.  back in 1967, Allison was demonstrating a reliable 27,000 lbt in afterburner from a TF41 and that was without a good nozzle on it.  Yeah, I know that the TF41 is a later model Spey but I think it works better here.  Call it a Spey 300 and fit it to FAA Tomcat FGR.2's; collaborate with SNECMA, too, and use a nozzle similar to that of the M53 and you have an engine for the Aeronavale's Tomcats.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #49 on: December 12, 2012, 12:10:30 PM »
F-14 Strike [Tom-]Cat armed with 4 X AGM-69 SRAM-N (N=Naval version with ARM capability) 
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