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Stories / Re: Spanish Civil War - Polish PZL Fighters
« Last post by apophenia on Yesterday at 07:32:55 AM »

Polish Gull-Winged 'Gaviotas' in Spain (Part 3)

By the end of the Summer of 1936, 'Nationalist' gains against Republican Spain were becoming alarming. Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany made little attempt to hide their flouting of the 1936 Non-Intervention Agreement which they had just signed. With such blatant acts as the establishment of the Aviazione Legionaria and the Condor Legion, effective Italian and German support for Franco's rebels was growing. In studying the situation, officials of Poland's Lotnictwo Wojskowe decided to act in kind.

There would be no Polish 'Lotnictwo Legionowe' formed in Spain. Rather, volunteers would be sought from among experienced air crew and maintainers serving with the Lotnictwo Wojskowe. Temporary leaves would be granted and positive career growth guaranteed. At first, the response was sluggish. Even amongst the podoficerowie (NCO pilots), there was little ideological sympathy with Republican Spain. Still less amongst the officer class. An indirect approach was required.

Warsaw had secretly promised Madrid at least one volunteer fighter squadron. To clinch the deal, Madrid guaranteed that such a squadron would be assigned to the front directly opposite the new Condor Legion - guaranteeing Polish pilots a crack at the Germans. It turned out that conservative, Catholic Poles wereńt keen on Spaińs 'godless' socialists ... but they despised Nazis even more. Suddenly, the Lotnictwo Wojskowe faced a new challenge of having too many service personnel requesting leave as volunteers!

Along with the first PZL P.11s sent to Spain went engineering personnel from the Korpus Oficerów Lotnictwa - Grupa Techniczna (or Aviation Officers Corps - Technical Group). The foremost role of the KOL-GT was to oversee maintenance and ensure spares. But their secondary role of gathering technical intelligence had begun to grow in importance.

The KOL-GT prepared technical reports on enemy types (German and Italian) in-theatre but, more quietly, it also reported on Republican types which had been supplied by the Soviet Union. The latter reports were originally dominated by the Tupolev SB medium bombers. With a speed of 244 mph at 4,000 m, the SB 2M-100 was the match of any P.11 fighter. [7] And even faster SB 2M-100As were now showing up in Spain.

Another nasty surprise for the Lotnictwo Wojskowe was the KOL-GT's assessment of Soviet Polikarpov I-16 fighters. When the portly Polikarpov low-winged monoplane was first displayed in the west - in Milan at the Oct 1935 1° Salone internazionale aeronautico - most western commentators remarked upon poor Soviet workmanship. In Spain, however, the 'Mosca' was quickly developed a solid reputation. Unlike Soviet biplane fighters, the I-16 matched PZL P.11h performance in most categories. The I-16's climb rate was slightly inferior but 'Mosca' was a full 65 mph faster at altitude than the P.11h.

¡Cuidado con el Huno en el sol!

If the Soviet Polikarpov I-16 came as a nasty shock, a new low-winged monoplane fighter from Nazi Germany was almost paralysing. The Messerschmitt Bf 109B-1 began showing up in Spain in March 1937. They served in the Condor Legiońs Versuchsjagdgruppe 88 and soon engaged in aerial combat with Polikarpov I-16s. While the latter still had some game (and the numbers for now), the new German fighter was obviously the future.

The Messerschmitt's compact airframe was as structurally advanced now as the PZL gull-wing had been when first introduced back in 1929. The Bf 109B-1 clearly outclassed the much-vaunted I-16 but suffered none of that stubby Soviet fighter's handling dangers. On little more than the power available to a P.11c, the Bf 109B-1 was already 55 mph faster than the PZL. The German monoplane was shorter-ranged but had a faster rate of climb. In the air, the Bf 109B-1 couldńt be touched and Messerschmitt was already developing even more powerful and better-armed derivatives.

To say that KOL-GT reports on Polikarpov and Messerschmitt fighters precipitated a crisis of confidence within the LW's Słuz[.]ba Lotniczo-Techniczna (Aviation-Technical Service) would be an understatement. State-owned PZL had been focused on generating cash income for Warsaw through successful export sales of the P.24 series of fighters. But Lotnictwo Wojskowe planners had also leaned towards developing a 'domestic' P.24 variant to replace their aging P.11c fleet.

Kryzys zaufania - No PZL P.24h for Spain

The Komitetu ds. Uzbrojenia i Sprzętu (Committee for Armaments and Equipment) had recommended the commissioning of a 'P.24PL'. The goal was a common airframe to arm both the Lotnictwo Wojskowe and the Fuerzas Aéreas de la República Española. Both fighter types would be powered by the subsidised Gnome-Rhône 14K (or its Romanian-licensed) IAR K14 equivalent. As soon as possiblę production would shift to the better-cooled Gnome-Rhône 14N radials (to be license-built at the former Skoda works by PZL WS-1).

The generalised 'P.24PL' and Spaińs P.24h began to diverge. But arguments in the Warsaw planning offices of the Dowództwo Lotnictwa (Air Force Command) over the ideal armaments for these new fighters became moot. The 'P.24PL' might have been better-armed and more powerful than a P.11c or P.11h but the new fighter would only be 10 mph faster. In other words, a 'P.24PL' had no more chance of successfully intercepting a Soviet SB or catching a Nazi Messerschmitt than did an in-service P.11c or P.11h.

Top: This never happened. The PZL P.24 was the logicial successor to the P.11h. But, by the time a P.24h Halcón II design was finalised and space was available on the line at Okęcię the era of such gull-winged fighters had passed.

Both the planned 'P.24PL' for Poland and P.24h for Spain were cancelled outright. The latter would be replaced immediately by further shipments of P.11s. These ex-Lotnictwo Wojskowe P.11c fighters would be listed as P.11h/IIs (with the false implication that they were IAR- or Gnome-Rhône powered). That dodge was to satisfy British restrictions on exports of Polish-made engines. Of coursę Bristol knew exactly what the Poles and Spaniards were up to but Filton had been placated through access to secret Polish data on the performance of Mercury engines during extended combat exposure.

Bottom: Una falsificación - an ex-Lotnictwo Wojskowe PZL P.11c masquerading as a P.11h Halcón. Such sucedáneo 'P.11h/II' were issued to various Escuadrillas  de Halcones (Internacionales). The unit here remains unidentified but it may well have been American-manned (based on the Texas-like motif on the rear fuselage).

The scheme is the original P.11c khaki with all Polish 'szachownice' ('chess board' national emblems) and other areas overpainted with two tones of oliwka. Republican red ID panels have been added but, for reasons unknown, CH-106 never received its FARE rudder stripes.

(To be continued ...)

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[7] Making the chances of current LW fighters successfully intercepting Soviet V-VS bombers very slim indeed. Back in Warsaw, the KOL-GT was also well aware of the latest model SB 2M-103s establishing altitude records and quite capable of showing any P.11 a clean pair of heels.
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Stories / Re: Spanish Civil War - Polish PZL Fighters
« Last post by apophenia on Yesterday at 07:27:46 AM »
Polish Gull-Winged 'Gaviotas' in Spain (Part 2)

Before the first shots were fired in the Spanish Civil War, the first P.11c fighters allocated to Madrid's order were progressing down the PZL WP-1 production line in Okęcie. In light of Bristol's no-export licensing condition, these aircraft were powered by imported Mercury engines built by Bristol at their Filton plant. This plan worked well until a Non-Intervention Committee was established in London in Sept 1936. Thereafter, the supply of Filton-built engines dried up.

At that point, Spain had only been supplied with a dozen P.11c fighters out of the 36 ordered. Unwilling to risk Bristol's (or Londońs) rath, Warsaw ordered PZL to source a new engine type. Fortunately, the first Gnome-Rhône powered P.11f for Romania had just been prototyped. It was, thereforę decided that the remaining 24 x PZL fighters for Spain would be fitted with 610 hp Gnome-Rhône 9Krse radials. [4]

Enter el Halcón - The PZL P.11h

The P.11f derivatives to complete the remainder of the Republican order were designated P.11h (for hiszpański or hispana) by PZL. In Spain, G-R 9K-powered P.11s were considered tramo 2 (or tranche 2) - tramo 1 being the Mercury-powered P.11c fighters originally ordered. But, in the field, the P.11h fighters were dubbed Halcón (Hawk) ... although, like all PZLs, they were just as apt to be called la polaca in Spain.

The camouflage scheme specified for Spanish P.11 fighters had been verde bosque (forest green) over azul cielo (sky blue). This proved too dark for most Spanish operating environments and blotches of tan or brown paint were often applied in the field to tone the scheme down.

Top: A wireless-equipped P.11h fighter of 1ª Escuadrilla de Halcones based at Alcalá de Henares for the aerial defence of Madrid in Nov 1936. P.11h CH-33 'Dominó' was flown by capitán 'Rojo García' - a nom de guerre for the jefe de sección (section leader) of 1ª EdH.

At this early stagę the Halcones retained Spanish Republican roundels (although the wing roundels have already been overpainted with largę quickly-recognised red ID panels extending out to cover the wingtips. The domino emblem of 1ª EdH is worn on its tail fin of CH-33 - the 33rd Caza tipo Halcón. [5]

Early on, the Spanish found it necessary to restrict Darne machine gun issuance for the tramo 2 P.11h fighters. [6] Although unfortunatę a silver lining was the realisation that twin-gunned PZLs climbed more quickly than their 'fully armed' wing mates. This resulted in aircraft with 2 x guns being detailed to  operate as pure fighters while the 4-gunned fighters specialised in bomber interception. As a result, Madrid requested that further P.11h fighter production be alternated between 4-gun and twin-gun fittings.

Bottom: A P.11h fighter (CH-91) of an entirely Polish-manned volunteer unit - the 3ª Escuadrilla de Caza (Internacionales) - in early 1937. This is a twin-gunned tramo 2 aircraft. Note the new red recognition panels (applied in Spain) and the 'folded bird' emblem favoured by 3ª EdC(I).

The revised camouflage specified for tramo 2 aircraft consisting of a paler oliva oscuro (dark olive) and marrón medio (medium brown) pattern over the azul cielo undersides. CH-91 would be lost in combat with a trio of fascist C.R.32s over Trijueque in the Guadalajara area in late March of 1937.

While P.11h Halcones fought for Republican Spain, the design department of PZL had not been resting upon its laurels. The French engine-maker Gnome et Rhône had offered PZL 150,000 francs in development funds and a free prototype engine to evolve an export-suitable P.11 powered by its twin-row Gnome-Rhône 14K engine. That concept had emerged as the P.11a-based P.24/I prototype back in 1933. By June 1934, the P.24/II had established a new FAI speed record for radial-engined fighters.

PZL had a world-beater on its hands and the P.11c-based P.24 production series would turn out to be a good little money-earner for Poland. Orders came in from Turkey, Greecę and Bulgaria with production licenses then bought by both Turkey and Romania. It was anticipated that these P.24 earnings would soon be followed by more Spanish gold.

(To be continued ...)

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[4] The 'fix' was not quite as simple as it sounds. Another 13 x P.11c airframes for Spain had reached an advanced state on the Okęcie line. These fighters were to be redirected to Poland's Lotnictwo Wojskowe (six fitted with Filton-made engines, seven with PZL-built Mercurys). Their replacements for Spain would be added to the Gnome-Rhône engined variants.

[5] These individual aircraft codes were applied based on an airframes arrival in Spain. Thus, CH-33 would be the 33rd P.11 type (CH-01 to CH-12 being P.11c types) and the 21st P.11h sub-type.

[6] The Republican government had arranged to source locally-made Darne guns (produced by Unceta y Cia SA of Guernica under the Astra brand name). Initially, however, deliveries were deliberately slowed by a Nationalist-leaning Unceta y Cia management.
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Stories / Spanish Civil War - Polish PZL Fighters
« Last post by apophenia on Yesterday at 07:24:27 AM »
This story was prompted by an thread on Secret Projects called 'Alternate Spanish Civil War Aviatioń. I have not followed the exact discussion in the SPF thread but it was definitively an inspiration.

-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/alternate-spanish-civil-war-aviation.51976/

I've tried to address the RW political and industrial impediments to Poland providing combat aircraft to Republican Spain. In my what-if, those considerations dictate the creation of new PZL sub-types. The urgency of fighting in Spain will also push the development of a (hopefully plausible) what-if interim fighter for Poland's future.

Apologies in advance to any Spanish- or Polish-speakers for any manglings of their languages in my text. Doubltess such errors are annoying but they were unintentional. Any corrections (to spelling or idiom) are most welcome.

Enjoy ... but brickbats and suggested alternatives are also welcome.

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Polish Gull-Winged 'Gaviotas' in Spain (Part 1)

In Oct 1935, a Memorando de Entendimiento was signed between the governments of Republican Spain and Poland. Warsaw committed to supplying 36 x PZL P.11 fighter aircraft. The Poles also agreed to the immediate supply 28 x used PZL P.7s to act as advanced fighter-trainers. These P.7s would be officially on loan to Spain to get around an export ban on the type's Skoda-made Bristol Jupiter engines. [1]

In early Dec 1935, the first shipment of eight PZL P.7a fighters arrived by sea at the port of Cádiz in the south of Spain. There, Construcciones Aeronáuticas S.A. took responsibility for the re-assembly of the Polish airframes. After acceptance by Aviación Militar inspectors at CASA Cádiz, completed P.7s were flown to Getafe for use by the Escuela de Vuelo y Combate or distribution amongst the former Nieuport units of Grupo 11. More partially disassembled P.7a airframes would follow.

With the outbreak of the civil war, the P.7s quickly became one of the Republic's top performing fighter types. Two Escuadrillas Mixtas were formed - one at Málaga, the other at Cádiz. Málaga's 1ª Escuadrilla Mixta de PZL P.7 y Ni-H.52 was equipped with aircraft flown south from Getafe while Cádiz-based 2º EM collected its PZLs directly from the CASA works. It would be Escuadrilla Mixta de PZL P.7 y Ni-H.52 at Cádiz which would bear the brunt of initial 'Nationalist' aerial efforts launched from Morocco.

PZLs Into Combat - the Cauldron of Cádiz

The revolt of the Ejército's Cádiz garrison began on 18 July. As a result, 2º EM  found itself isolated and surrounded on the Aeródromo de Cádiz. A division of labour was agreed whereby the squadrońs Nieuport biplanes would focus on the attack role to secure the airfield while the faster PZLs would engage the rebel transport and bomber aircraft. Success was immediate when a trio of P.7s intercepted a flight of 'Nationalist' Fokker F.VII transports over the Gulf of Cádiz on 18 June.

Upon interception, one of the F.VIIs pitched into a steep dive and was not seen again. [2] Of the remaining three Fokkers, two were claimed as damaged and the third was shot down into the sea by cabo Alonso Santamaría. The damaged  F.VIIs turned tail for Morocco, one trailing smoke as it left. With the 'Nationalist' aerial troop transfer thwarted for now, the Spanish PZLs had been 'blooded'.

In an effort to secure their aerial lifeline to Morocco, the 'Nationalists' moved a flight of Breguet Bre.XIX light bombers to Aeródromo de Jerez just 100 km north of Cádiz. The intended continuous bombing and harassment of the Aeródromo de Cádiz proved impossible. The PZL flight quickly got the measure of the Breguets - cabo Santamaría having previously crewed on the type. In the end, only dawn and dusk raids by the Breguets were survivable.

Top A PZL P.7a 'Gaviota' of 2º Escuadrilla Mixta de PZL P.7 y Ni-H.52 based at the Aeródromo de Cádiz. This Skoda Jupiter-powered fighter is armed with twin 7.7 mm Vickers E machine guns. The scheme is the original Polish khaki wczesny overpainted with verde medio.

With no time to establish a unit emblem, the skull-and-cross-bones marking on CG-19 was presumably concocted by the ground crew. All 2º EM aircraft were shared amongst available pilots. Thus, the 'kill' markings on the tailfin represent a Breguet each knocked down by cabo Santamaría and sargento Muñoz as well as Santamaría's Fokker F.VII claim.

The over-worked Nieuports of 2º EM added strafing runs on Jerez de la Frontera to their repertoire. The cost on 2º EM aircraft and pilots was high but the Jerez field was left strewn with burnt-out Breguet biplanes. However, the deployment to Jerez had served its purpose. Thus distracted, 2º Escuadrilla Mixta de PZL P.7 y Ni-H.52 were unable to mount the standing patrols needed to intercept fascist transport aircraft heading for Sevilla. The 'Nationalists' were forming a critical mass in the south.

By the beginning of August, continued operations from Aeródromo de Cádiz had become non-viable. On the evening of Sunday, 02 August, the remaining flight-worthy aircraft were flown out carrying as many ground crew and other personnel as could be carried. Depending upon personal choice, the remaining defenders would surrender, fight to the last, or slip away in an attempt to join the local resistencia.

PZL P.7a - Del Cazador al Asalto

With the appearance of the PZL P.11s in Spain, the lower-powered P.7s could begin to replace worn-out Nieuport H.52 (aka NiD.52) biplanes in the low-level assault role. Initially, no P.7a airframe changes were made. However, Poland was also surreptitiously supplying Spain with replacement P.7s to make up for combat losses. These 'P.7h' replacements - with 'h' for hiszpański - were slightly refurbished Polish air force P.7a airframes which also featured a new belly bomb rack for level bombing (this rack stopped the main fuel tank from being jettisonable but that capability could be restored with the belly rack removed; eg: with light grenade-bombs carried on the wing racks in place of a belly bomb).

The 'P.7h' was announced as a 'new' model powered by a 480 hp Gnome-Rhône 9Ab Jupiter engine. In reality, all 'P.7h' retained their original Skoda-made Jupiters - the mention of fictitious 'Gnome-Rhônes' to simply a dodge to get around Bristol's renewed insistence on no exports for Polish-made engines of its design. [3]

The first tranche of 16 x PZL 'P.7h' attack-fighters arrived at Bilbao in Nov 1936. The main change was the previously-mentioned belly bomb rack. The 'P.7h' was also armed with twin, synchronised Vickers E guns which had been bored out and converted for 7.9 mm rounds (simplifying Spanish ammunition supplies). The 'P.7h' also adopted the small armour plates devised in Spain to offer pilots a bit more protection from ground fire.

Bottom A PZL 'P.7h' Gaviota flown by sargento Jesús García Herguido of the 21º Escuadrilla de Asalto (Internacionales) on the Aragon front. Based at the Aeródromo de Sariñena, 21º EdA(I) mainly performed strafing and bombing attacks on the 'Nationalist' defenders of the surrounded city of Huesca.

The scheme for CG-63 is the original Polish khaki wczesny overpainted with a locally-mixed equivalent to verde medio. Red ID panels have replaced the Republican roundels. On the fuselage side is the 21º EdA(I) mascot. [4] Gaviota CG-63 would be lost on Christmas Day 1936 - downed by ground fire from hilltop positions around rebel-occupied Huesca.

The shift of Republican P.7s to the attack role reinforced the fact that the earlier PZL fighters were now being outshone by the more manoeuvrable Italian Fiat C.R.32 biplanes. This performance gap led to a quickening of the PZL P.11 procurement programme.

(To be continued ...)

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[1] The British engine-maker had become slightly more flexible on 'foreign use' of the obsolescing Skoda-built Jupiter radials. However, Bristol remained adamant about banning exports of the more modern, Polish-made Mercury engine.

[2] That Fokker F.VII crew and their terrified Moroccan passengers had survived the extreme dive and flown on to land at Sevilla. The aircraft itself, however, took a beating - suffering structural damage to both wing skins and engine support struts brought about by the high-G pull-out over the Golfo de Cádiz.

[3] The change in Bristol Aeroplane Company's attitude was related to the British government signing the 1936 Non-Intervention Agreement regarding the Spanish Civil War.

[4] Chosen by Polish volunteers to the 21º EdA(I), this silly billy goat is, of course, the Polish cartoon character Koziołek Matołek. As a mascot, Koziołek Matołek is doing his bit by dropping 'bombs' on the fascists.
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Land / Re: The Addams Family goes to the beach
« Last post by apophenia on Yesterday at 07:19:39 AM »
I like it!  Are you thinking of modifying existing 'soldier' figures? (Maybe 1/32nd would give Lurch the stature he needs?)

I've seen mention of 1/24th figures of the Addams Family members ... but not 1/35th. There are some scalable 3D print figures out there of the Family but they're kinda pricey.

Is it just me or does anyone else see Thing surfing the ride on top of the spare wheel?  ;D
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Land / The Addams Family goes to the beach
« Last post by Kerick on July 17, 2026, 01:40:11 PM »
At my last club meeting I received a kit of the new Tamiya Schimmwagon. We are using this kit as a basis for a GB. In the box it appears to be a very good kit with nearly no flash and plenty of nice detail. It’s not excessive like some manufacturers these days. It also includes three figures, one of which is not meant to be used.
As I just can’t leave a kit alone I’ve decided to whiff it into an Addams Family beach buggy. As the kit comes with the wide tires it was designed to use all I needed to do was dress it up a little. I bought a no name chrome paint pen and chromed the wheels, window frame and several other parts. I’ll paint the body black with red velvet looking seats. The trick will be making a figure of Lurch all crammed in trying to drive it. I might need another for Uncle Fester and the kids.
The other option would be to jack up the suspension and add fat tires from the parts box and make a redneck pickup truck version. Maybe in the future using a Kubelwagon kit. Pics will follow.
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Profiles and Pixels / Re: GLanini Profiles
« Last post by Glanini on July 16, 2026, 06:36:13 PM »
Thanks

While for the profiles published so far I had already the airplane drawn some time ago so I just have to add camo and markings for this I had to start from a white paper or screen.
But the Seahawk is lovely and deserved it

Regards

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Scifi and Fantasy / Re: MaxxPro MRAP After the Apocalypse
« Last post by Kerick on July 16, 2026, 12:56:08 PM »
This is better every time I look at it! Superb!
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Scifi and Fantasy / Re: MaxxPro MRAP After the Apocalypse
« Last post by Frank3k on July 16, 2026, 11:15:24 AM »
Maybe the fenders were replaced with metal ones after too many zombies broke the fiberglass ones.

I love that gray-green (or blueish-gray-green) color.
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Land / Re: 1/35 Frankentruck
« Last post by Frank3k on July 16, 2026, 11:11:50 AM »
Here's the cab on the truck. The resin is splotchy because I let some of it sit in the printer tank for too long and the pigment separated. Perfectly ok, though. The parts have some dust on them from removing the supports and sanding. I knocked the mirror off of the driver's door. The passenger door still has its mirror in this picture,  but that was knocked off five minutes later. I expected this, so there's room to replace the mirror support with wire.

The kit wheels are too big for the vinyl tires, so they look a bit wobbly in these pictures. The tires are pretty nice, so I'll trim them until the wheels fit. If that gets too tiresome, I'll just print new tires:



Here's the cab with the wheel arches. I'm not loving them; I may just add mudflaps or reprint them:



The front bumper looks OK. I'll add a PE mesh behind the grill. The small vertical bars on the grill are supports; I may leave them in. I'll also block off the area between the chassis and the front of the body.



The dashboard came out OK:



I also have an Italeri M923 A1 "Bigfoot". I shortened the chassis a while ago, but haven't had the motivation to finish it since the main attraction - the bigfoot tires - are crap. But looky here, the cab fits and looks good! I'll have to remove and reattach the fender to allow the cab to move forward a bit. I guess I'll have to print another cab:

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Scifi and Fantasy / Re: MaxxPro MRAP After the Apocalypse
« Last post by Buzzbomb on July 16, 2026, 07:42:10 AM »
[*: I am, of course, assuming that the mud-guards are steel, not plastic or aluminium.]

That was an extraordinarily good point, that led to a interwebnet search that sort of indicated that the exterior bits, like mud guards/Fenders appear to be fibreglass or equivalent material, to save weight. Which makes all sorts of sense for a modern vehicle.
Now I have to revisit them as well, because.. Fibreglass, does not bend !
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