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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1050 on: August 01, 2026, 06:16:03 AM »
Excellent concept and backstory with beautifully-rendered 4-view drawings! Does[n't] get much better than that  :smiley:
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1051 on: August 01, 2026, 03:30:20 PM »
Excellent concept and backstory with beautifully-rendered 4-view drawings! Does get much better than that  :smiley:

Thank you, much appreciated.  :smiley:
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1052 on: August 01, 2026, 07:01:21 PM »
Bahhh, a bit of cross kitting and profile merging for a man of your talents, nary a problem.

Or is the 3D design path beckoning ?

The conceptual backstory is quite sound and the drawing views convincing as well.

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1053 on: August 02, 2026, 12:00:24 AM »
Bahhh, a bit of cross kitting and profile merging for a man of your talents, nary a problem.

Or is the 3D design path beckoning ?

The conceptual backstory is quite sound and the drawing views convincing as well.

Ha, ha, thanks Brian for your vote of confidence!

The build will be a true mixed media effort but trying to stay as much to traditional methods as I can.  Having said that, some of the shapes will be so awkward that a bit of CAD work and printing will be inevitable.  However, I want to see if the spares box can take the brunt of the damage!
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1054 on: August 02, 2026, 12:06:43 AM »
Cruiser Tank Vigilante Update:

Well, here we go with a pretty much 'out-of-my-butt' build. Although I will be using a Tamiya Valentine as my base model, an awful lot is going to be chopped and changed - however, hopefully, enough will remain to show off the Vigilante's Valentine roots.

Most of the work will be back to good ol' scratch build but I will, unashamedly, be calling on my CAD program and 3D printer to help out with some of the more complex shapes.  I'm planning to tackle the project in 3 stages: first the hull, then the running gear and lastly the turret. The hull is a big chunk but should be relatively straight forward. The running gear I just know is going to cause me sleepless nights and the gods only know what fun I will have with the turret... We all love a challenge!

Anyhoo, here are the first WIP pic...




(Yes, I know the mid-hull section on the right is back to front - I swear it wasn't when I took the photo!!)
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1055 on: August 02, 2026, 04:38:40 AM »
Great start! Watching with interest ... but most intrigued to see how you eventually handle the turret mods  :smiley:
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1056 on: August 02, 2026, 07:30:04 AM »
ARGH ! the Valentines Massacre !

Be nteresting to see how this goes "together". :smiley:

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1057 on: August 02, 2026, 07:34:33 AM »
 :smiley: ;D ;D
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1058 on: August 02, 2026, 02:02:22 PM »
The front of the drawings is more Matilda than Valentine, however, I can see the benefit of using Valentine as it is perhaps a bit more spacious

Either way.. pretty sure I will be along for a pleasant ride during this.

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1059 on: August 02, 2026, 05:05:51 PM »
The front of the drawings is more Matilda than Valentine, however, I can see the benefit of using Valentine as it is perhaps a bit more spacious

Either way.. pretty sure I will be along for a pleasant ride during this.

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1060 on: August 03, 2026, 02:14:12 AM »
Cruiser Tank Vigilante Update:

Steady progress with the hull at last becoming something I can get my hands around and looking vaguely tank-like. The new Matilda-like nose has been adapted and welded in place. The sides of the hull have been boxed in with enough space to accommodate the Christie suspension and the new cooling fans and exhaust system...






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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1061 on: August 03, 2026, 04:19:59 AM »
Looking good!  Is the bit bulking out around the turret surround 3D printed? If not, what kind of plastic is it?
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1062 on: August 03, 2026, 04:49:19 AM »
Looking good!  Is the bit bulking out around the turret surround 3D printed? If not, what kind of plastic is it?

It is indeed.  I started off making it out of plastic/styrene strip, sheet and bits of square tubing but the size was awkward and I just couldn’t get a square result that I was happy with.  The 3D printer is nothing if not accurate…  ;)
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1063 on: August 03, 2026, 06:58:14 AM »
Very, very nice work.

I hear you on how printing can be more accurate than sratchbuilding.

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1064 on: August 03, 2026, 10:26:51 AM »
And out comes the 3D printer, already!  ;D

Nice work, though!  ;)  :smiley:
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1065 on: Yesterday at 01:58:22 AM »
Very, very nice work.

I hear you on how printing can be more accurate than sratchbuilding.

And out comes the 3D printer, already!  ;D

Nice work, though!  ;)  :smiley:

Thanks chaps!

Guy you really must embrace the dark arts.  >:D 

Designing the shapes you need is fun/challenging in itself but the ability to then produce multiple exact copies and/or mirror copies is completely revolutionary.  I’m now tackling projects that would otherwise have been beyond my patience and sanity. 

Anyhoo, that’s what the voices inside my head told me to say!  >:D ;D

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1066 on: Yesterday at 04:40:59 AM »
...
Anyhoo, that’s what the voices inside my head told me to say!  >:D ;D

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1067 on: Yesterday at 06:38:25 AM »
Designing the shapes you need is fun/challenging in itself but the ability to then produce multiple exact copies and/or mirror copies is completely revolutionary.  I’m now tackling projects that would otherwise have been beyond my patience and sanity. 
Although I did fix a bit  ;D
Designing the shapes you need is fun/challenging

There is a lot in that. The designing I do is much more basic, as I have not progressed past MS 3D builder, so complex curves are out of my remit at the moment. To design up an almost complete Matilda front end,with all those curves is real  :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza: territory.

I sort of aware that there is software that will take a 3 view drawing and render it into a manipulable 3D piece. From what I am able to ascertain though,  it is a multi step/multi programme process and I am not their yet and so far have not needed it.
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1068 on: Yesterday at 03:47:35 PM »
"I know the voices in my head aren't real ... but sometimes their ideas are just absolutely awesome!" - Anonymous  :D

 ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1069 on: Yesterday at 04:18:15 PM »

There is a lot in that. The designing I do is much more basic, as I have not progressed past MS 3D builder, so complex curves are out of my remit at the moment. To design up an almost complete Matilda front end,with all those curves is real  :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza: territory.

I sort of aware that there is software that will take a 3 view drawing and render it into a manipulable 3D piece. From what I am able to ascertain though,  it is a multi step/multi programme process and I am not their yet and so far have not needed it.
Somewhere on the internet knows.

The secret/challenge, given the very basic limitations of my Tinkercad program (and my printer), is to break down the design you are after into its basic constituent parts.  Tinkercad does not allow you to make complex curves straight off but you can squeeze/stretch, cut and join various cylinders as either positive solid shapes and/or negative spaces to get something close to what is desired.  Some sanding and trimming after printing does the rest.  The Matilda-like nose looked more like a hedgehog when I initially printed it!  I guess ABS would be easier to manipulate post printing - the PLA filament I use is like trying to sand down a neutron star…

In the end, and this will horrify the true believers, I find that 3D designing is like military planning - good enough now is better than perfect tomorrow.

I like the idea of being able to render 3D objects from a 3-view drawing - that would be very cool!
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1070 on: Yesterday at 11:07:16 PM »
Great job! The cooling vents look fantastic. Are they printed or scratchbuilt?

I use PLA for quick test prints and usually darker colors. A shot of a contrasting primer helps when sanding, since the PLA will show up first. ABS (and similar styrene based filaments) is handy, especially when you want to glue it to other styrene parts but it can be finicky and you absolutely need an enclosure - to keep the fumes in (or vent them out) and to keep the workspace warm, since the ABS can shrink and peel off the hotplate with a cool breeze.

If your program can display multiple viewports (top, front, left, perspective, for instance), it's pretty straightforward to add 3 view drawings. You just have to make sure all the views are the same size and are placed at the same relative position in each viewport; pick one point that is visible in all three views and move it to the 0,0 position for each viewport.

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1071 on: Yesterday at 11:25:06 PM »
Great job! The cooling vents look fantastic. Are they printed or scratchbuilt?

I use PLA for quick test prints and usually darker colors. A shot of a contrasting primer helps when sanding, since the PLA will show up first. ABS (and similar styrene based filaments) is handy, especially when you want to glue it to other styrene parts but it can be finicky and you absolutely need an enclosure - to keep the fumes in (or vent them out) and to keep the workspace warm, since the ABS can shrink and peel off the hotplate with a cool breeze.

If your program can display multiple viewports (top, front, left, perspective, for instance), it's pretty straightforward to add 3 view drawings. You just have to make sure all the views are the same size and are placed at the same relative position in each viewport; pick one point that is visible in all three views and move it to the 0,0 position for each viewport.

Thanks Frank.  The engine exhaust/cooling vents are stollen from bits left over from an old IS-2 (I think...) and cut to size.

I really must try ABS one of these days but just too lazy to make the effort!!

Multiple view ports? You’re talking crazy talk!  :o

The CAD program I use (Tinkercad) is an introductory elementary school tool used to teach the basics to young (probably very young) kids and just about matches my computing abilities and/or willingness to learn anything too complicated - old dogs, new tricks, etc.  ;)

It really only allows you to play around with basic shapes, cube, cylinders, cones, wedges and alike.  Having said that, by breaking down objects in to their basic components, a surprising amount of complexity can be achieved. The most annoy thing about Tinkercad is its lack of a true cut and paste facility - to cut a piece from a larger shape you have to first block out (make invisible) everything you don't want, copy the result and that can then be pasted.  Like I said, it's meant for very young kids!!
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1072 on: Yesterday at 11:29:40 PM »
Cruiser Tank Vigilante Update:

The folks down south of the border in Englandshire are complaining that they are living through the hottest summer in recorded history, apparently it's like living on the surface of the sun - the gates of hell are open and the demons are riding forth, etc, etc, etc... Personally, I don't see it myself. Here in the Highlands of Scotland we are averaging single figures at night and it has been yet another dreich (drizzly), overcast day. Too wet to do any gardening... so up to the study it is! :)

Stub axels attached, rear drive attachments more or less sorted and some covers for the side air intakes. I tried adapting the Tamiya Valentine side stowage box but given that it needs to be longer and I need two of them it was time to fire up Tinkercad once again - Sorry!

Lots of work on the running gear. Front idler and tensioner sorted, axel pivots sorted, and the road wheels filled and adapted to fit the stub axels. Ah yes, and then there are the drive sprockets - nothing is ever easy... I had drive sprockets of the right diameter in the spares box but the position of the teeth didn't match the tracks, I also had drive sprockets with the right teeth spacing but which were to large. Yes... cut the teeth off one and glue onto the other! It looks a little mad right now but a coat of primer will bring it all together. Still have the return rollers and rear engine covers to do and then it’s on to the turret.








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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1073 on: Today at 01:04:21 AM »
I tried adapting the Tamiya Valentine side stowage box but given that it needs to be longer and I need two of them it was time to fire up Tinkercad once again - Sorry!

Uh-huh! Yeah! Sure!  ::)

Ah yes, and then there are the drive sprockets - nothing is ever easy... I had drive sprockets of the right diameter in the spares box but the position of the teeth didn't match the tracks, I also had drive sprockets with the right teeth spacing but which were to large. Yes... cut the teeth of of one and glue onto the other!

At last! Real modelling!  8)  ;D  ;D

Actually, I could have forgiven you for 3D printing the drive sprockets.  ;)
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #1074 on: Today at 01:41:25 AM »

Uh-huh! Yeah! Sure!  ::)

At last! Real modelling!  8)  ;D  ;D


Bah humbug!  ;D ;D ;D


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