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Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« on: January 26, 2015, 05:49:26 AM »
Hello all. Long time. Seems as if I have got my profiling mojo back [groans from audience]. Quiet you!

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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2015, 08:00:32 AM »
Looking good! :)
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2015, 06:02:31 AM »
Thanks!

Ilyushin Il-31 Fissure-A:

Ilyushin Il-31 'Fissure-A' VVS by Matthew Palmer, on Flickr
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2015, 09:18:38 AM »
Last two design/color combos favorites :)

Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2015, 01:44:47 AM »
Thanks!

Ilyushin Il-31M Fissure-C:

Ilyushin Il-31M 'Fissure-C' VVS by Matthew Palmer, on Flickr
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2015, 02:53:41 AM »
Great silhouettes! Like coming from nowhere but "could have been" anyway! :-*

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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2015, 04:47:37 AM »
I really like the Ilyushin Il-31 - any more details?
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2015, 02:14:08 AM »
Thanks!

I envisage the Il-31 as sort of a Su-7ised Il-28. Generally Ilyushin's answer to the Fitter family using an existing fuselage barrel for ease of production (in theory). So new 50-60ish degree sweep wings. New nose intake. Single engine in the fuselage replacing the bomb-bay. Something of the order of a Lyulka AL-7F which has similar smash to the Tumansky R-15 of MiG-25 fame - so supersonic performance via brute force rather than any finesse!

The Il-31M features revised intake geometry (principally auxiliary air inlets), uprated engine (AL-7M perhaps?) and a spine for better aerodynamics/more avionics.

I have a few export customers in mind and a plaything for the PVO coming up next. It may be interesting to speculate on an Ilyushin Fencer equivalent?? Maybe a Fencer-ised Il-54 with fuselage engines rather than podded in a revised aft fuselage. Sort of what the Il-102 was to the Il-40.

Sorry for the ramble.  ;)
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2015, 02:38:13 AM »
No need to apologise.  I like your innovation here :).  You had me confused a bit though as I was trying to work out which Ilyushin project design you had based your profile upon.
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2015, 05:52:38 AM »
Given the high performance of the Il-31, an interceptor variant for the PVO was almost inevitable. This was the Il-31P Fissure-D:

Ilyushin Il-31P 'Fissure-D' PVO by Matthew Palmer, on Flickr

The Indian Air Force was the first export customer. Initially they received Il-31D Fissure-Bs, a downgraded variant with simplified avionics, intake geometry and a downrated engine. These proved unsatisfactory and later India received the Il-31MD variant which, while still not as potent as the Soviet's own Il-31M, was a considerable improvement. Here is an Indian Il-31D performing a somewhat colourful flypast after an exercise:

Ilyushin Il-31D 'Fissure-B' Indian AF by Matthew Palmer, on Flickr



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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2015, 03:15:18 PM »
Dear Empty Handed,
I like your planet very much. Did the Soviets win WW3 there?

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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2015, 04:02:41 AM »
The more you post these Il-31s, the more nervous my 1/48 HpH Il-28 is getting... ::)
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2015, 02:12:11 AM »
Thanks a lot to reveal this secret part of the Korean crisis... Secret history is fascinating, with beautiful unknown airplanes moreover :)

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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2015, 04:40:26 AM »
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2015, 05:15:53 PM »
Great ideas here

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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2015, 05:18:21 AM »
 :)
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2015, 05:37:05 AM »
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2015, 08:21:07 AM »
Oh Oh Yes  :)

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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2015, 09:54:00 AM »
Beautiful!!  An advanced version with turbo-props, perhaps?

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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2015, 11:41:58 PM »
Douglas EC-124D Rivet Stack:
This is interesting, even if I do not love such huge cargo, without streamlined aerodynamics (this is not your fault, this is the template of course)... ;)

Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2016, 05:51:48 AM »
I've always felt that the US Navy needed some kind of Tu-16 Badger analogue. So what if Martin and the USN Bureau of Aeronautics, concerned with the viability of the seaplane deterrent, developed a conventional land-based long-range patrol bomber from as many P6M components as possible?


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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2016, 09:01:08 AM »
Love your P-7 Majestic ... and the concept behind it  :)
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2016, 11:58:12 AM »
P-7 Seamaster/Majestic = wonderful :)
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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2016, 03:07:12 PM »
Really nice work!!!

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Re: Empty Handed's New Profile Hangar
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2016, 03:11:06 AM »
 :)
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