F-16 Inspirations & Ideas

[The Big Gimper]

Wow. That's cool.

How would Bitching Betty deal with those flight orientations?

"Backwards! Backwards!"  or "Pull down! Pull down!"

[kitnut617]

In Chinese no less ------ hmm     

[Volkodav]

In Chinese no less ------ hmm     

Yes they have already produced a copy but those nasty American companies wont sell the metallurgical tech so they don't work, time for some more industrial espionage. 

[dy031101]

In Chinese no less ------ hmm     

Yes they have already produced a copy but those nasty American companies wont sell the metallurgical tech so they don't work, time for some more industrial espionage. 

The last 20 seconds are in Japanese.  And the Chinese is in traditional (Taiwan) rather than simplified (Mainland).

This has got to be the worst friendly-fire excuse I've ever heard 

[kitnut617]

And also the Diverterless Supersonic Intake:

That just has to be taken from the X-32 set-up, looks just like it.

[elmayerle]

More like the X-32 was taken from it as this modification to the testbed F-16 was done back in the late 1990's. 

[Diamondback]

Well, here's two build ideas...

1. QUICK & DIRTY:
-Add rails on doors like Aircraft #2 in Greg's prior post--maybe LAU-12x-series with BOL dispensers.
-Shove an F110-GE-X or F100-PW-229A/232 up its backside. (-X is a GE demonstrator variant, putting out 36,500# thrust in Zone 5; PW-229A/232 are both 32,500#.) Definitely needs an AVEN/LOAN hybrid.
-Build on an E/F or a Sufa, with both spine and CFT's.
-Diverterless supersonic inlet.
-Wide Angle Raster HUD?

2. SPARE NO EXPENSE:
-As per Q&D, but:
-Start with a Sufa.
-Modify to an XL config, including stretching spine and CFT's.
-BOL dispensers on all AMRAAM rails including wingtips--or maybe the dual-rail-plus-ECM-pod setup that IIRC Greg posted in another thread I can't find ATM.
-Cram the most powerful engine that'll fit up its arse.

[Volkodav]

Blend the fuselage into the diverterless supersonic inlet and use the extra volume in place of or in addition to the CFTs.

[Diamondback]

My vote would be "in addition"--if we go with F110-GE-X there's power to spare anyway, and if we can get even more power we can improve the P/W ratio even with the creep of added gear. Even an engine with equal power but less weight will help move the P/W curve in the right direction...

BTW, does anybody remember where that "dually plus pod" tip was posted? I thought it was something for the AIDC Ching-Kuo and it's something I'm considering for my "F-15 revamped" builds, but I can't seem to find it again to even start looking for ideas.

[kitnut617]

More like the X-32 was taken from it as this modification to the testbed F-16 was done back in the late 1990's.

Now that's interesting Evan, didn't know that ---

Was it developed with the new XF-X in mind then ?

[elmayerle]

Well, here's two build ideas...

1. QUICK & DIRTY:
-Add rails on doors like Aircraft #2 in Greg's prior post--maybe LAU-12x-series with BOL dispensers.
-Shove an F110-GE-X or F100-PW-229A/232 up its backside. (-X is a GE demonstrator variant, putting out 36,500# thrust in Zone 5; PW-229A/232 are both 32,500#.) Definitely needs an AVEN/LOAN hybrid.
-Build on an E/F or a Sufa, with both spine and CFT's.
-Diverterless supersonic inlet.
-Wide Angle Raster HUD?

2. SPARE NO EXPENSE:
-As per Q&D, but:
-Start with a Sufa.
-Modify to an XL config, including stretching spine and CFT's.
-BOL dispensers on all AMRAAM rails including wingtips--or maybe the dual-rail-plus-ECM-pod setup that IIRC Greg posted in another thread I can't find ATM.
-Cram the most powerful engine that'll fit up its arse.

For "Spare no Expense", go with the advanced option offered the UAE that has a wing very similar to the F-22's and the F-16XL's conformal semi-submerged carriage of four AMRAAMs or equivalent plus wing hardpoints (six, in total, if I remember the illustrations correctly).

[elmayerle]

More like the X-32 was taken from it as this modification to the testbed F-16 was done back in the late 1990's.

Now that's interesting Evan, didn't know that ---

Was it developed with the new XF-X in mind then ?

The FSD F-16 that was flown with canards was used for years as an R&D testbed.  It's final role was as a testbed for a variety of JSF technologies including the diverterless inlet.

BTW, that picture above was taken, I believe, from a flight hanger along the eastern edge of the plant here, looking east across the Carswell Field main runway; I recognize the buildings in the background.

[Talos]

More like the X-32 was taken from it as this modification to the testbed F-16 was done back in the late 1990's.

Now that's interesting Evan, didn't know that ---

Was it developed with the new XF-X in mind then ?

Actually, it was modified by Lockheed to test the F-35's diverterless intakes back in 1996. I need to go back and finish my F-16 profile drawing sometime, I did draw that intake for it too.

[GTX_Admin]

Something different:  Iraqi F-16

[GTX_Admin]

Look Ma!  No Pilot!

[raafif]

I like the colourful drones :)

[Scooterman]

Bah.  Did mine 10 years ago.  I was close!

[GTX_Admin]

But your's is too pretty to shoot down...

[GTX_Admin]

Random F-16 inspiration thanks to Chris Cooper:

[Daryl J.]

Boy oh boy..seeing the resin mockup of the new Kinetic F-16XL made me immediately think Swedish and digital green cammo.

[taiidantomcat]

http://www.f-16.net/g3/var/resizes/artwork/album221/Block%2070.jpg?m=1371937053

[elmayerle]

http://www.f-16.net/g3/var/resizes/artwork/album221/Block%2070.jpg?m=1371937053

F-16D Block52 fuselage (maybe use two spliced together to get the same length as the F-16XL, cockpit, spine, and vertical tail, canards off a YF-16CCV, AFTI-16, or FSX, kit, and wings off a YF-22 as a starting point; though if Kinetic does a 2-seat F-16XL, that would work just as well (and, yes, Greg, there was at least one 1/48 kit of a YF-16CCV produced - Taiwanese manufacturer, IIRC).

I wonder if this would have the conformal carriage of AMRAAMs as on the extreme UAE proposal (or like the Sparrows on the F-16XL)?

[Rickshaw]

[GTX_Admin]

(and, yes, Greg, there was at least one 1/48 kit of a YF-16CCV produced - Taiwanese manufacturer, IIRC).

I have seen two:

Zhengdefu:



Kiddyland:


Kiddyland also offer the F-16/79 in 1/48:

[elmayerle]

I've got the Kiddyland one in the remote southern storage.  Never saw the F-16/J79, though; if I run across one, I'd definitely want it.

In 1/72 I've got a few of the F-16CCV, an AFTI-16 conversion kit, and a Hasegawa FSX kit from when it was thought the FSX (later F-2A/B) would use them.