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F-16 Inspirations & Ideas
« on: January 16, 2012, 07:35:43 AM »
The good, the bad (as in badass), and the ugly......

I figured that I'm not the first one to imagine a F-16 armed with weapons not built with US- or Western-related technologies, but this came back to my mind just this afternoon.

Russia used to advertise an "Adjutant" system intended for non-Russian-made aircraft.  It is designed to provide illumination and command guidance for the Russian-made R-27 as well as R-77 missiles and is centred upon the "Epaulet" micro-AESA radar.  I wonder if it can also be used to cue the R-73 WVRAAM......

The Epaulet itself seems pretty small (at least as far as a single radar component goes although I couldn't find its exact size) with an antenna having just 68 transmit-receive modules and weighing just 5kg.  A single set can scan ±45°, azimuth and elevation.

The question is...... how many would I need on a F-16...... and where I can put it/them.  I'm currently thinking two, one at either side of the nose (behind the radome and, in terms of the port side of the ADF variant, where the searchlight would be) or chin intake.  Might need sizeable fairings for the antennae so that the arrays can be angled to scan areas directly ahead, too.

Does anyone have suggestions?
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Re: F-16 Inspirations & Ideas
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 10:39:28 AM »
Building on that "bad-ass" one, the same fit, possibly with a HTP or LANTRIN fit, on a F-16F or derivative thereof.

An F-2B-Kai with the full dorsal spine for avionics, an upgraded F110 (same as the F-16E/F) and this kit.

Both, of course, having the enhance RHAW fit of the BLock 50/52+ F-16s.

Other potential "invisible" mods would be an OBOGS instl (fun, that one, did the retrofit kit for USAF Block 50/52 aircraft without it) and, for the F-2B-Kai, either an AESA version of the Japanese radar fitted or a suitable choice from what's available as retrofit options (and there are several).

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Re: F-16 Inspirations & Ideas
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 02:00:31 PM »
I thought the F-16I might have some inspirations on possible Epaulet radar mounting option on the nose......

The intake-sides seem to allow for quite a bit of room, too, without interfering with ground attack sensor pod carriage, however.
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Re: F-16 Inspirations & Ideas
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 04:38:41 PM »
Something simple...a Armée de l'Air F-16. 8)
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Re: F-16 Inspirations & Ideas
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2012, 08:47:09 PM »
Something that should have been... RNZAF.

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Re: F-16 Inspirations & Ideas
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 09:28:56 PM »




Couple from Clave . Love the Russian one  :-* and the Iranian was a "almost was"
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Re: F-16 Inspirations & Ideas
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 09:36:52 PM »
I did a total of 28 Lawn Dart profiles over the years from F-16As to F-16XLs and pretty much everything in between along with a couple of RNZAF F-2s.

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Re: F-16 Inspirations & Ideas
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 11:12:35 PM »
I've got one F-16 in the stash that'll wear IL ANG markings. I'd love to have a couple of the XLs to play around with in plastic.

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Re: F-16 Inspirations & Ideas
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 02:42:03 AM »
Here's the revised image of something I did for TaiidanTomcat. He talked about a Soviet-ized F-16. Instead of trying to spell out my take on that, I tweaked an F-16 profile a bit. The original image only had the fixed windscreen, big spine and twin tails. The revised image has a rear-view mirror on the canopy, a tail stinger for a drag chute above the engine nozzle and a MiG-23-style (actually from a Ye-8)  fold-away ventral fin instead of the Viper's twin fins..



<...> I'd love to have a couple of the XLs to play around with in plastic.

I wish they re-released Monogram's 1/72 F-16XL!  :-*
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Re: F-16 Inspirations & Ideas
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2012, 03:36:11 AM »
Hmmm...
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Re: F-16 Inspirations & Ideas
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2012, 09:13:59 AM »
Well, an obvious one is melding the original Japanese FSX proposal (essentially a F-16C with canards trialed on the F-16CCV et al.) and the production F-2.  I do have an example of the Hasegawa limited-run FSX kit that I'll likely build as is on the airframe side but with upgraded weapons fit.

To some degree, Epaulet looks like it might fit in place of the ESM antennae fitted around the inlet on (at least late) Block 50/52 F-16s though orienting it to be front-facing might require even larger fairings than they have now.

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Re: F-16 Inspirations & Ideas
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2012, 04:32:39 AM »
A new version of the "Yard Dart"

Lockheed Martin’s Fighting Falcon Evolves With New F-16V


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SINGAPORE, Feb. 15, 2012 – Lockheed Martin [NYSE: LMT] unveiled a new version of the F-16 today at the Singapore Airshow. The F-16V will feature enhancements including an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, an upgraded mission computer and architecture, and improvements to the cockpit – all capabilities identified by the U.S. Air Force and several international customers for future improvements.

With nearly 4,500 F-16s delivered, this is a natural step in the evolution of the world’s most successful 4th generation fighter.  The Fighting Falcon program has continually evolved as it began with the F-16 A/B as the lightweight fighter then transitioned to F-16 C/D and Block 60 versions as customers’ requirements changed.

AESA radars offer significant operational capability improvements. Lockheed Martin has developed an innovative solution to affordably retrofit this key technology into existing F-16s.  The F-16V configuration is an option for new production jets and elements of the upgrade are available to most earlier-model F-16s. The “V” designation is derived from Viper, the name fighter pilots have called the F-16 from its beginnings.

“We believe this F-16V will satisfy our customers’ emerging requirements and prepare them to better interoperate with the 5th generation fighters, the F-35 and F-22,” said George Standridge, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics’ vice president of business development.

The F-16 is the choice of 26 nations. The F-16 program has been characterized by unprecedented international cooperation among governments, air forces and aerospace industries.

Headquartered in Bethesda, Md., Lockheed Martin is a global security company that employs about 123,000 people worldwide and is principally engaged in the research, design, development, manufacture, integration and sustainment of advanced technology systems, products and services. The Corporation's net sales for 2011 were $46.5 billion.
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Re: F-16 Inspirations & Ideas
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2012, 05:19:05 AM »
Been on the cards for a while.  It will be interesting to see what radar they choose.
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Re: F-16 Inspirations & Ideas
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2012, 06:16:07 AM »
I just wonder: they still have letters in alphabet to name all this versions?  ;)

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Re: F-16 Inspirations & Ideas
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2012, 10:52:20 AM »
I keep thinking that they should consider having Northrop apply some of their inlet expertise to reducing the signature of the present inlet or in conjunction with incorporating a F-35-style inlet.