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McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« on: January 16, 2012, 02:46:17 AM »
Hi folks,

An area for your McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration.

To start with, here is some inspiring artwork by Andy Wenner:



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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 10:52:19 AM »
Just to start discussion, let me through a few simple ideas out there:

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  • The proposed F-4EJ-Kai with a new wing aerodynamically derived from the F-15's wing
  • Various engine upgrades: F404, PW1120, uprated RB.199, etc.
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 10:57:14 AM »
Production version of the test bird fitted with canards on the sides of the intakes.  Always thought that one looked rather wicked.
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2012, 12:32:51 AM »
I always liked the variable geometry concepts of the Phantom.

Like a two engined MiG-23 from some angles.
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2012, 05:40:39 AM »
I've finished a total of 63 Rhino profiles over the years including a number of Swingers with various noses.

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2012, 05:47:27 PM »
Production version of the test bird fitted with canards on the sides of the intakes.  Always thought that one looked rather wicked.

Never seen a pic,but I heard some Israeli F-4s were modified with canards. Not sure if I believe this one or not. I know Israel had a habit of doing local modifications to aircraft, including adding canards to the Mirage 5 to make the Kfir,but still, never seen any evidence of this one.

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2012, 10:02:22 PM »
62-12200 was the only canard Rhino.  Looks hot IMHO.  Been wanting to model this machine for awhile but she's quite the mash up.  Thin, fixed slat wings, no front missile bays, I forget what else.


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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2012, 10:33:15 PM »
I believe the basic airframe was that of an RF-4C which explains the lack of missile bays for starters.  That said, I've also seen references to an F-4E which wouldn't preclude missile bays.

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 04:56:23 AM »
You're both right,in a sense. 62-12200 was an RF-4C,not sure if it was the prototype of it( I have seen it listed as a "YRF-4C"),but it was the prototype F-4E,or YF-4E. The first tests done with an internal M61 were pretty crude,and they used this model,with the gun sticking out of the forward looking camera window right below the radome. Obviously the production models had a better installation,but for the prototype,this was good enough.Because it was orginally built as an RF model,this would explain the lack of foreward missile bays.

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 06:19:55 AM »
Alternate Users: Canada being the most obvious for sevral variants

And here's one ...
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 12:45:13 PM »
The CF-110 Phantom II looks nice!  Definitely a project worth consideration and a nice companion for an RCAF CF-110. 
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 05:06:44 PM »
Sweet :-*
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2012, 04:39:08 AM »
ESTOL Phantom anyone?

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2012, 04:41:05 AM »
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2012, 04:55:18 AM »
Some inspiration:

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