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Fw-190 and Ta-152 ideas and inspiration
« on: December 28, 2011, 04:05:07 PM »
Hi folks,

A thread for Fw-190 and Ta-152 ideas.

Here's one to start with.

Following the success of the Bf-109Y (see here),  Focke-wulf were asked to try something similar with the Fw-190.  The result wasn't as successful.  Not finding favour in the fighter role the resulting Fw-190B-2 was turned into a ground attack aircraft to replace the Ju-87 and Hs-129.  A single staffel of Schlachtgeschwader 2 (SG 2) Immelmann trialed 12 during early 1943.  However, although the load carrying and endurance was liked, pilots reported that the aircraft was simply too unwieldy for use at low level and they were withdrawn after 3 months.



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Re: Fw-190 and Ta-152 ideas and inspiration
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2011, 04:06:04 PM »
Following the failure of Fw-190B-2 ground attack aircraft, Focke-Wulf started afresh. The resulting Fw-190C-1 was far more successful.  In addition to being able to carry a massive payload, this time a tail gunner was also incorporated - this being at the request of front-line crews who found that rear defence was essential in the CAS/Ground attack role.




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Re: Fw-190 and Ta-152 ideas and inspiration
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2011, 04:06:49 PM »
What if Dr. Richard Vogt of Blohm & Voss designed the D series 190s:



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Re: Fw-190 and Ta-152 ideas and inspiration
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2011, 04:08:47 PM »
What if the Ta-152 was developed a bit further with the powerful Jumo222 engine:

Single seat gunfighter:



Two-seat Missile fighter (backseater to guide AAMs:



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Re: Fw-190 and Ta-152 ideas and inspiration
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2011, 04:11:01 PM »
Mindless play:



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Re: Fw-190 and Ta-152 ideas and inspiration
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2011, 04:12:40 PM »
Twin engine, high altitude recon/bomber with second crewman in nose and tricycle undercarriage:



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Re: Fw-190 and Ta-152 ideas and inspiration
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2011, 04:14:30 PM »
A different sort of Buchˇn:



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Re: Fw-190 and Ta-152 ideas and inspiration
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2011, 04:16:33 PM »
Ta152 with DB610 - note, no intelligence what-so-ever was used in the creation of this:



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Re: Fw-190 and Ta-152 ideas and inspiration
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2011, 04:27:02 PM »
Fw 190 on floats (from a "Rufe", I think):

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Re: Fw-190 and Ta-152 ideas and inspiration
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 10:31:31 AM »
Like the concept drawings.  Good job.  Level rear decks of a German battleship turning it into a battleship/seaplane carrier using FW-190.
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Naval Torpedo-Bomber?
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2012, 02:06:44 AM »
On my list of future builds is a Ta-152-based two-seater torpedo bomber along the lines of your "two-seat missle fighter". As you may know, there was a real-world Fw-190 torpedo-fighter, so extending the concept to a Ta-152 ain't too outlandish (and so what if it was??).
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Re: Fw-190 and Ta-152 ideas and inspiration
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2012, 03:39:08 AM »
Maybe ground-pounder Ta-152 in scheme of other WWII fighters used in post-war minor conflicts: full of loads under it's long wings. Maybe not "Nazi slaughtering Russians on Siberia", but Kaiserreich keeping colonies, and use this plane in Tanganika, or Namibia against partisants in 50ies, or 60ies.

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Re: Fw-190 and Ta-152 ideas and inspiration
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2012, 01:22:36 PM »
Fw-190D or Ta-152 nightfighter with two-seat canopy from FW-190S-8 and radara fit from FW-190A-8/R-11 (if memory serves me correctly).

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Re: Fw-190 and Ta-152 ideas and inspiration
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2012, 01:51:30 PM »
Maybe ground-pounder Ta-152 in scheme of other WWII fighters used in post-war minor conflicts: full of loads under it's long wings. Maybe not "Nazi slaughtering Russians on Siberia", but Kaiserreich keeping colonies, and use this plane in Tanganika, or Namibia against partisants in 50ies, or 60ies.

That would be interesting.  Alternatively, maybe leftovers from the war sold off.
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Re: Fw-190 and Ta-152 ideas and inspiration
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2012, 03:43:27 AM »
I wonder...a Fw-190 stretched and turned into something akin to a German Nakajima B6N:



What do you think?

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