Author Topic: Empty Handed's Profiles  (Read 277415 times)

Offline arc3371

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #250 on: July 06, 2012, 06:25:08 AM »
Love the Airspeeds!

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #251 on: July 07, 2012, 02:59:50 AM »
 :) :)

The AS.19 has a definite Avia B-534 look to it.
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #252 on: July 07, 2012, 04:17:04 AM »
 :) 8)

Love the AS.19 in particular.  What's with the tail-ski at Habbaniyah though?

Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #253 on: July 07, 2012, 04:35:56 AM »
RAF forces in Iraq were the epitome of extemporisation!  :P

....or ......  The original D.XIX profile I have is rather sparse and low-rez so I used my D.XVII (which has a skid) as a basis for the D.XIX.

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.....has a definite Avia B-534 look to it

Yeah it really struck me as being quite similar too but no B-534s were harmed in the making of this profile!

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #254 on: July 08, 2012, 05:39:12 AM »
Love the Affray/Agave EH ... and completely plausible. But belated congrats on the Ca.135 developments. Going on looks alone, that was an airplane than deserved a better fate. Pallavicino would be proud  :)
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #255 on: July 08, 2012, 05:55:53 AM »
Thanks apophenia!


McDonnell F-88C USAF 37th FIS by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

The APQ-50A radar and (lamentable) Westinghouse J46 engines (necessitating bulkier engine housings) were the defining features of the F-88C all-weather fighter.
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #256 on: July 08, 2012, 06:09:16 AM »
That looks great! :)
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Offline arc3371

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #257 on: July 08, 2012, 06:25:41 AM »
Indeed

Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #258 on: July 10, 2012, 07:47:10 PM »
Thanks!

Thought I'd have a go at 3-D modelling. After an afternoon and evening learning the ropes and 3 attempts at something XF-88 shaped, I got this far with gmax. Caution! Very, VERY WIP!
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #259 on: July 10, 2012, 07:49:34 PM »
I have been modeling for years and I have yet to make a quality aircraft fuselage like that.

Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #260 on: July 11, 2012, 10:08:09 AM »
^ Thank you for the encouragement!

Progress:



Still a very long way to go but now roughly plane-shaped!
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #261 on: July 11, 2012, 06:57:58 PM »
Looking good!
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #262 on: July 11, 2012, 10:18:18 PM »
 My hat's off to anyone who makes the effort at learning 3d modeling. One of those things I'd like to learn, but am still a little intimidated by...good luck!

Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #263 on: July 11, 2012, 11:32:07 PM »
Thanks! After hours of trawling through youtube tutorials, I'm a little intimidated myself!

I would still recommend anyone having a go. If you just dabble, with no fixed end result in mind, you may be surprised how far you get.

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #264 on: July 12, 2012, 02:11:24 AM »
What software are you using?
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #265 on: July 12, 2012, 05:14:49 AM »

Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #266 on: July 13, 2012, 04:08:22 AM »
OK I've given up on the polygon or "cylinder" method and am giving the spline method a go. I can definitely recommend the spline method. You can get a lot closer to the desired shape with a lot less tweaking and messing about.

Decided to go with the original Su-15 as it's shape is simplistic enough for a 1st-timer but it's still got that retro charm!  ;)

http://prototypes.free.fr/t6/t6-1e.htm

If anyone is interested in the spline technique, there are a lot of tutorials online and on youtube in particular but this site really helped me get my head round it:

http://www.mr-jose.com/gmaxcourse/gmax-6.htm
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #267 on: July 13, 2012, 05:40:41 AM »
Looking good
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Offline finsrin

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #268 on: July 13, 2012, 12:05:56 PM »
So good and so USAF 50's 60's.   :-*

Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #269 on: July 14, 2012, 02:43:45 AM »
So good and so USAF 50's 60's.   :-*


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Offline arc3371

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #270 on: July 14, 2012, 03:03:37 AM »
Looka interesting, how hard is it to learn making these 3d profiles?

Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #271 on: July 14, 2012, 03:08:19 AM »
Looka interesting, how hard is it to learn making these 3d profiles?

It isn't hard per se but there is a learning curve (it has it's steep bits). I only started on Monday so to get the basics should take a few days but it is very time consuming.

Everyone is different though. Some could do better in half an hour I'm sure!

Offline arc3371

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #272 on: July 14, 2012, 04:27:48 AM »
You seem to be making great progress !

Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #273 on: July 14, 2012, 09:06:18 AM »
Thanks!

Bent the fuselage back to make something of a lip for the intake. Dunno what is going on with the fuselage-radome join yet. I need to sweep it back a bit but it'll do for now.  :)

« Last Edit: September 04, 2012, 05:05:29 AM by Empty Handed »

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #274 on: July 23, 2012, 12:15:08 PM »
Looking good! :)
I have tried another 3D software, but... asymmetric aircraft were impossible to handle.