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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #375 on: July 26, 2020, 05:03:42 PM »
Always liked the low wide stance of the soviet MT-LB and think the M-113 would look cool if it were longer and lower too.  That said there is the question of internal volume and existing infrastructure, i.e. lower without an increase in width or length means less volume, but wider, in particular means logistic support and transport struggles.

Then again the were the Israeli Zeldas with spaced armour and the flotation kits on AICV, ARV and MRV versions that look pretty cool as they are wider for the given hull height.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #376 on: July 27, 2020, 01:55:45 AM »
The MT-LB and certainly the BTR/BMPs do not maintain social distancing for the riders. The M113 is almost a roomy mansion by comparison.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #377 on: July 27, 2020, 02:05:52 AM »
Random idea:  fit turret from FV433 Abbot SPG onto M113.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #378 on: July 27, 2020, 02:06:13 AM »
You could also use the M474 Pershing missile carrier with the cut down hull as the basis for that turret, too.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #379 on: July 27, 2020, 02:15:38 AM »
A kit of this would be cool:

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #380 on: July 27, 2020, 07:10:51 AM »
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #381 on: July 28, 2020, 02:08:32 AM »
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #382 on: July 28, 2020, 06:24:55 AM »
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #383 on: July 28, 2020, 05:45:19 PM »
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #384 on: August 11, 2020, 03:27:01 AM »
Kind of a new version of the M113:  M113AS4 Optionally Crewed Combat Vehicle (OCCV):

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #385 on: August 11, 2020, 02:11:18 PM »
The Aussie 6 wheeler M113 is a good looking vehicle, and makes for the ultimate radio controlled car for that inner boy!

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #386 on: August 12, 2020, 02:22:46 AM »
I've got a conversion kit for the M113AS4 in the stash.

You can also see a short video on the AS4 upgrade here:  https://youtu.be/yoTmgk1w9Pw

I also recently found out that the Germans and Danes have/had some 6 wheeled stretched version as well.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #387 on: August 12, 2020, 03:46:18 AM »
There's an M113 under there somewhere:

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #388 on: August 12, 2020, 09:48:48 AM »
I've got a conversion kit for the M113AS4 in the stash.

You can also see a short video on the AS4 upgrade here:  https://youtu.be/yoTmgk1w9Pw

I also recently found out that the Germans and Danes have/had some 6 wheeled stretched version as well.

The makers of the M113 marketed a six wheel version before the Australians decided to build one.  Theirs was a new build version which overcame many of the problems which the Australians faced by stretching the existing versions.   I worked with the company that was responsible for the CNC system they used to remanufacture the wheel stations in the hulls.  I'm glad to see that BAE finally accepted our advice and instituted a twin CNC system to remanufacture the wheel stations, otherwise it would have take twice as long to manufacture the vehicles!  The method used to rebuild the vehicles was IMO a waste of money and resources.  They would have been better off purchasing new six wheeled hulls from FMC.

Here is another video on the vehicle (interestingly from a Vietnamese commentator): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjPDRiC72bo

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #389 on: August 12, 2020, 02:11:05 PM »
There's an M113 under there somewhere:



That would be by Mousehouse, which has since closed down, sadly. Grab one wherever you see it.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #390 on: August 13, 2020, 02:54:35 AM »
That would be by Mousehouse, which has since closed down, sadly. Grab one wherever you see it.


Are you referring to the M1113AS4 conversion or the civilian vehicle in the picture?

If the AS4 conversion, you are correct - its a Mouse House Enterprises product:



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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #391 on: August 13, 2020, 03:20:55 AM »
There's an M113 under there somewhere:

The British Columbia-made KMC-Kootrac Fire Fly is similar (or identical?).

I'd like to know more about that wide High Speed Steel Track (HSST). A flyer on the Australian Parliament House website suggests that the HSST is a KMC product. Anyone know if that is true (or did KMC take-over this track design from FMC)?

I'd also be curious to know if the HSST has ever been applied to an actual M113. I'm also wondering when the HSST first appeared. If it was before 1990, I can imagine a host of OpFor applications  ;)
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #392 on: September 06, 2020, 03:02:33 AM »
And, the Aussie cargo variant for the weekend, I think this is available as a kit or conversion in 1/35, for those keen.
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #393 on: September 06, 2020, 03:23:41 AM »
Yep:

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #394 on: January 12, 2021, 01:20:41 AM »
Random idea:  Australian Army anti tank M113 variant with Malkara missiles mounted on roof probably using similar arrangement as the Humber Hornet shown below and with reloads carried in rear hull.

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