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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2012, 06:00:48 AM »
'The Bucket Shop' was a great resource for M113 reference and model stuff. Alas, The Bucket Shop is now gone but the Internet Archive has preserved most of its pages (and images):

http://web.archive.org/web/20011202055935/http://www.armouredengineer.force9.co.uk/bucket/intro.htm
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2012, 06:25:26 AM »
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 12:47:44 PM »
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 01:00:54 PM »
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 07:28:42 PM »
Australian T-50 M113 Conversion

One version of the 1/35th scale M113 from Academy does include the T-50 turret plus a few other interesting items such as the M40 Recoilless Rifle and flame thrower turret for the M132 Flame Track. 
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2012, 07:34:33 PM »
Australian T-50 M113 Conversion




I wonder what the copper wire is meant to be.  I've never seen  T150 turret with a guard or handle shaped like that on it.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2012, 08:45:06 PM »
Apparently the guard is a "Fire suppression rail" to stop the possibility of firing the mgs into the cargo area of the Bucket.

http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/firestorm/fst081.htm  (specifically the 3rd Photo & paragraph directly above this).

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2012, 04:06:04 AM »
The book Vietnam Tracks, includes a photo in which one can see an ARVN M113 equipped with an M8 armored-car
turret, along with photos of M74C turret equipped ARVN and Oz vehicles.

Another early ARVN addition was the mounting of armored helicopter seats on top of the original ACAV-type vehicles for
unit commanders and their US advisors. 
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2012, 04:54:26 AM »
I do wonder if a version that would have six road wheels per side would degrade it's swimming capability.
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2012, 05:15:45 AM »
Another early ARVN addition was the mounting of armored helicopter seats on top of the original ACAV-type vehicles for unit commanders and their US advisors.


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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2012, 02:41:27 PM »
I do wonder if a version that would have six road wheels per side would degrade it's swimming capability.

The Australian Army uses the M113AS4 which is a six roadwheel modification of the baseline M113.  It isn't amphibious at all although it's also uparmoured which could account for this degrade in capability.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2012, 03:07:58 PM »
I do wonder if a version that would have six road wheels per side would degrade it's swimming capability.


The Australian Army uses the M113AS4 which is a six roadwheel modification of the baseline M113.  It isn't amphibious at all although it's also uparmoured which could account for this degrade in capability.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2012, 06:51:55 AM »
I just may try to build a version like that, :o
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2012, 09:19:41 AM »
I just may try to build a version like that, :o


how about like this ??

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2012, 06:07:05 PM »
Apparently the guard is a "Fire suppression rail" to stop the possibility of firing the mgs into the cargo area of the Bucket.

http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/firestorm/fst081.htm  (specifically the 3rd Photo & paragraph directly above this).

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I still reckon its a pretty rare thing.  As I've said I've never seen one and while I don't claim I've seen every one of the 800+ M113s we bought, if it was common I'd have expected to see it at least sometimes.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2012, 06:14:49 PM »
Have to agree there Brian.  Although it's mentioned often enough in various sources, the Buckets I saw/rode in were without it.  Perhaps it was considered superfluous in an operational sense and was removed at the unit level?

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2012, 06:26:26 PM »
Have to agree there Brian.  Although it's mentioned often enough in various sources, the Buckets I saw/rode in were without it.  Perhaps it was considered superfluous in an operational sense and was removed at the unit level?

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More than likely not bothered with.  I don't see that much value in it being there, except as a grab handle for the diggers in the back when they're standing in the hatch.  It would have been a valuable part of the vehicle CES and knowing QMs, not issued for fear of loss.  ;)

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2012, 06:32:45 AM »
I just may try to build a version like that, :o


how about like this ??


What kind of turning radius does that long version have? :-\
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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2012, 06:36:41 AM »
Depending on the steering system, it could potentially turn on a dime as the Yanks say.  Simply one track forwards and the other going in reverse and voila!  Might take a shade longer than a conventional vehicle though.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2012, 09:32:59 AM »
Have to agree there Brian.  Although it's mentioned often enough in various sources, the Buckets I saw/rode in were without it.  Perhaps it was considered superfluous in an operational sense and was removed at the unit level?

It was an initial thing from when they were first modified and soon found to be superfluous and removed or not fitted.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2012, 09:45:57 AM »
M113 with the ARES Talon 35mm gun.





Would look good beside a Tracked Rapier.

Circa 1979, based on the M548 TLC. Each gun fired at 1,200 rpm a 35mm shell at 1,175 mps.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2012, 09:49:16 AM »
Rarely seen M113 AVLB. Bridge was 33' long and could support 15 tons.


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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2012, 10:23:34 PM »
They trialled that in Vietnam IIRC.  Obviously not a success as it basically sank from history without a trace, like the Sheridan one.

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Re: M113 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2012, 03:05:46 AM »
M113 with the ARES Talon 35mm gun.





Would look good beside a Tracked Rapier.

Circa 1979, based on the M548 TLC. Each gun fired at 1,200 rpm a 35mm shell at 1,175 mps.


I really like the look of that - makes this sketch I did a little more plausible too:

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