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Modelling => Group and Themed Builds => Canadian GB => Topic started by: apophenia on July 31, 2026, 09:49:35 AM
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Inspiration for the Canadian Group Build
Plonk yer Canuck-inspired tidbits here! Older builds, other folks' builds, hopeful manufacturer-applied Maple Leaves, concept art, flights of fancy, etc., all welcome :smiley:
Now, a bit of potential diorama fodder to kick us off ...
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I’m considering something I pondered during a Theme build quite a while ago. I believe it was about the retirement of the Tornado. I collected the kit and some Canadian F-18 decals so it’s ready to go.
It was over on WIM in 2019.
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I really enjoyed building the Meng Leopard C2 MEXAS based on apophenia's artwork:
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/a07712f7-3378-4f37-b261-f34176123eec/46e39d53-5625-4900-bf51-cae5f4d8b08d.jpeg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55123713766_3005c1561f_b.jpg)
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Will aircrafts produced in Canada be accepted? I have CF-104 and Canadair CL-13 Sabre in mind.
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And now for something a bit different...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHijAaBJCTI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHijAaBJCTI)
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Will aircrafts produced in Canada be accepted? I have CF-104 and Canadair CL-13 Sabre in mind.
Absolutely. Want to do a whif Canadair Sabre? Go for it! :smiley:
Want to do a RW CF-104 in Flyvevåbnet markings? Sure ... but, pretty-please, in that olive camo scheme :-*
And now for something a bit different...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHijAaBJCTI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHijAaBJCTI)
You know, there's few subjects which can be accurately modelled using an empty soup tin and a hot glue gun ;D
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Now ... more potential diorama fodder for anyone with an Italeri 1/32 Starfighter wingtip tank in their spares box! This shot was taken at the Canadair facility at Cartierville. I'm guessing that is the guilty CF-104 in the background ;)
(Insert: 1964 Québec license plate for colour reference.)
The period-appropriate Revell Germany 1/32 Beetle kit seems to be widely available. (I'm guessing that the Aoshima Snap Kit in that same scale is now a collector's item?)
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Titanium Geese and Roadrunners (https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=11629.0)
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(https://hosting.photobucket.com/a07712f7-3378-4f37-b261-f34176123eec/cf60ebf6-9e8c-414b-8cb0-7fff4c883349.jpg)
Delta Duex (https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=11718.0)
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Proof positive that pretty much everything looks better with Maple Leafs on :smiley:
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Did the Canadian Army in WW2 use the American made Jeep or the British Bantam? I have one of each.
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Did the Canadian Army in WW2 use the American made Jeep or the British Bantam? I have one of each.
Ken: Canadian military use of jeeps link: https://captainstevens.com/military/mv/jeeps/
The Canadian Army used a range of jeep types - first testing the US-made Bantam Car 5 Cwt and Willys-Overland MA types. (A number of sources claim that Bantams were used operationally - if true, those would have been ex-British BRC-40 models.)
As with the US Army, the Willys was favoured by Canada and orders were placed for 5,000 Willys MBs (for some reason, nobody ever used the MBs' official Canadian Army nomenclature of W-LU 440-M-PERS-1 ... go figure!). Prior to receiving their MBs, the Army also ordered standard Ford GPs in a range of sub-types - including GPW ambulances and amphibious GPAs (although I suspect that the latter may have come from British Army stocks).
Quite late in the war, the Canadian Army also ordered 'Tracked Jeeps' ... but they arrived too late for wartime service and, beside, the tracked beasties looked nothing like their wheeled counterparts.
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Well then, if my first idea goes well then I might follow up with the Jeep.
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Need to get back home to the stash and have a rummage. Must be something that works for me, I know I have Canuck decals.
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Will aircrafts produced in Canada be accepted? I have CF-104 and Canadair CL-13 Sabre in mind.
Absolutely. Want to do a whif Canadair Sabre? Go for it! :smiley:
Want to do a RW CF-104 in Flyvevåbnet markings? Sure ... but, pretty-please, in that olive camo scheme :-*
My choice will then be R-754 in a very faded paintscheme - but without RWR. When they were added, the plane were repainted in a new gloss paint better suited for the danish climate.
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My choice will then be R-754 in a very faded paintscheme - but without RWR. When they were added, the plane were repainted in a new gloss paint better suited for the danish climate.
Wow! Very cool 8)
I knew that the olive scheme fading badly ... but the state of the two Starfighters in your photo is off the charts!
Looking forward to this :D
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"When things fall apart, like boots or hearts, they really fall apart..." - The Tragically Hip
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Does that Arrow-reborn concept not just cry out for canards? Here's another image of it on the ground.
Also attached is an imaginary 6-engined Arrow evolution. I propose the acronym LOFA for this concept (standing for Landing On Fumes Again) ;D
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"She was underwhelmed, if that's a word; I know it's not, 'cause I looked it up;
That's one of those skills that I learned in my school" - Sloan
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I suspect somebody has already done a Canadian Viggen (?)
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I suspect somebody has already done a Canadian Viggen (?)
I have seen a game image:
(https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/1ae/SampleImage_01.jpg)
But nothing more. I would go for it if you are thinking of.
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I suspect somebody has already done a Canadian Viggen (?)
I have seen a game image:
But nothing more. I would go for it if you are thinking of.
I doubt it. If anybody else feels like doing something with a Viggen, please go ahead.
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I have seen a game image ...
Which looks awesome! :-* If perttime isn't up for it, I do hope that someone will run with a CAF Viggen :D
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"Tracing one warm line; Through a land so wild and savage; And make a Northwest Passage to the sea" - Stan Rogers
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I was moderately proud of this one...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52027172943_2fb86a3548_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ngsRVa)DSCF0689 (https://flic.kr/p/2ngsRVa) by VileDr.Yo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46965833@N07/), on Flickr
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I was moderately proud of this one...
And rightly so, Doc'! That is awesome ... and not so different from some of the Advanced Projects Group's Arrow PS-2 concepts. The planned Arrow Mk.4 production type would've also been similar - but with pylon-mounted ramjets :smiley: :smiley:
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I like it just because it cracks me up!
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Inspiration for the Canadian Group Build
Plonk yer Canuck-inspired tidbits here! Older builds, other folks' builds, hopeful manufacturer-applied Maple Leaves, concept art, flights of fancy, etc., all welcome :smiley:
Now, a bit of potential diorama fodder to kick us off ...
I look at the photo you included in the first post and think RCAF ZELL...
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(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiwBH1f2-VzaME_TtlHJ6VMlJtdQUK9xTCwJeel2CdeUf4Ck5sA2JE_xBdqJFpb_u54o-eFJcstsf7bQYOUXLV17aqGIv3r0XFfatvCABDLjlLXfO8boREBwn3gwOxoBMCxohfqBKYDJZvu/s1600/Typhoon_Canada.jpg)
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(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/image00z-jpg.889596/)
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I look at the photo you included in the first post and think RCAF ZELL...
;D ;D
Gotta love those Vinten VICOM recce pods for the CF-104s :-*
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Check out Gingie's Skynet Enabled Images, all with Canadian-themed AI artwork.
So far: B-52s, Harriers, CF-105s, Broncos, Cobras, Neptunes, Canberras, and CL 515s ...
-- https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=11796.msg238088
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I look at the photo you included in the first post and think RCAF ZELL...
Well, lookee here:
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CFBV
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Well, lookee here:
And why not?! ;D ;D
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Needs wings ;)
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Regarding that ZEL CF-105. There was also a smaller single engine design, tentatively called CF-104. Since it was a paper project it's an easy enough conversion from an F-106. I have some booster rockets from a TSR-2 kit and a ground transporter for Gundam transformers. This could be intriguing.
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Regarding that ZEL CF-105. There was also a smaller single engine design, tentatively called CF-104. Since it was a paper project it's an easy enough conversion from an F-106. I have some booster rockets from a TSR-2 kit and a ground transporter for Gundam transformers. This could be intriguing.
Indeed - see:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPbrQehkua3jo127pWNGgvLKSH-rzto74OxIPkFYJ6xrhcysq73NcHTsu7hDBBs_M4JwG7bqOh9bwngoGHtgRrQ5VsHMftVh0tKNJo_2vAqVfc1X3Itl77gK9rGxT1wU5OJcIi8C5HqTuUESfN3hqvx=w853-h640-s-no)
https://forums.kitmaker.net/t/avro-canada-c-104-inetrceptor-proposal-in-1-48/43248/27#google_vignette
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Needs wings ;)
Looks like a Model T (or similar) on rails. Cute! Maybe the express version has JATO rockets.
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Needs wings ;)
Looks like a Model T (or similar) on rails. Cute! Maybe the express version has JATO rockets.
Around these parts, we'd call that a 'Crummy' :D
Personal anecdotage ... in 1943, Grandad was transferred from RCAF Ucluelet on Vancouver Island to Gander (on Stranraers) and then on Goose Bay, Labrador. And that's how he gained 'Overseas' stripes - 'The Rock' and Labrador still being 'foreign lands' at the time ;D
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WOW!! Thanks GTX. I forgot how much it looked like an F-106. I saw the conversion link and bookmarked it. Again, thanks. It is a bit of work and my time is short, so I may use a resin kit I have of a Canadian VTOL "radial thrust engine" project.
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... I may use a resin kit I have of a Canadian VTOL "radial thrust engine" project.
Cool! Are you talking about the Project Y Ace, Y2 Silver Bug, or Avro Canada's later MX 1794 for the USAF?
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It's this. I hope the link works.https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/rcaf-46.42646/ (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/rcaf-46.42646/)
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A pair of Canadian Forces Cougar direct-fire support vehicles (inspired by an ATL discussion on SPF):
-- https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg238517#msg238517
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(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/part-of-canadas-centennial-display-team-cf-104-from-cold-lake-cf-101-416-sqn-chatham-1967-png.892491/)
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(https://theaviationgeekclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/MiGStory10.jpg)
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MiG - A Canadian Success Story! (https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=64.0)
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(https://images.shoutwiki.com/canadianpower/9/9b/Ontario-class_%28Kidd_class%29_Guided_Missile_Destroyer.gif)
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Hmmm ... Canadian Kidds. They look great ... but, given my druthers, I'd order another 4 x Iroquois.
(The RW 280 DDHs were available sooner; were dedicated ASW ships; 6 knots faster; and carried 2 x Sea Kings.)
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Just a reminder that there is plenty of Canadian content in Greg's 3-Cornered Cold War story (to which I am starting to belatedly add some more content - starting with the 3CCW RCN carrier stuff).
-- https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=11019.msg216806
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The Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow was a thing of beauty and drama ... but the earlier CF-100 Canuck does not get the attention it deserves. After all, advanced though she was, only 5 x CF-105s were finished. By contrast, the 'Clunk' is the only production fighter of Canadian design (thus far) - some 692 CF-100s were built (including Belgian exports).
Like most Canadian boys of the time, I built the 1961 Aurora kit of the CF-100 Mk.4. Looking back, I probably should have scale-o-rama'd that 1/67 model. Instead, I just slapped the decals on and hoped that silver plastic could pass for polished metal. She was slung from my ceiling amidst the Spits and '109s but, eventually, fell victim to Mum's aggressive model-dusting technique.
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I heard somewhere that there was plans for a possible attack version. I imagine it would have been similar to the Canberra or B-57.
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Yes there was. And there was a Canberra connection.
Avro Canada proposed adding 4 x bomb pylons in an attempt to meet a Sept 1950 USAF light bomber requirement. Those 4 x 1,000 lb bombs were considered inadequate and the CF-100 was dropped from the competition (along with North American's B-45 Tornado and AJ-1 Savage). That left just the Martin XB-51 and the English Electric Canberra ... which was eventually chosen as the Martin B-57.
In other 'Clunky' news ...
I played with a 'CU-100':
- https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg7297#msg7297 (https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg7297#msg7297)
The Rat actually built a long-winged 'Dragon Lady' Canuck:
https://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal12/11201-11300/gal11281-CR-100-Bailey/00.shtm (https://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal12/11201-11300/gal11281-CR-100-Bailey/00.shtm)
And on the RW interceptor side, in May 1956, Avro Canada proposed a retrofit for CF-100s by placing a Bristol Orpheus turbojet on either wingtip.
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I heard somewhere that there was plans for a possible attack version. I imagine it would have been similar to the Canberra or B-57.
See:
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Don't forget the VTOL/STOVL option:
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/a07712f7-3378-4f37-b261-f34176123eec/453201c2-56b6-4b5a-9a3a-00d6da953179.jpg)
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(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/cf-101-voodoo-cool-paint-scheme-the-net-png.893074/)
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(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/canadian-beauties-the-net-png.893079/)
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Great stuff, Greg!
Don't forget the VTOL/STOVL option:
Indeed. That VTOL Canuck concept used the same Orenda-devised 'eyelid' flapper-valve cascade outlets as the 1956 'X-Wing' fighter for the US Navy's TS-140.
From Avro Canada's Oct 1956 brochure, "Proposal for VTOL Visual Fighter in Accordance with U.S. Navy Specification TS-140":
Maximum speed: Mach=1.75, climb/cruise Mach=0.9
Rate of Climb 55,600 ft/min (at sea level at Mach=0.9)
Ceiling (combat) 62,000 ft
Powerplants: 4 x Orenda-licenced Orpheus BOr.11 (5,760 lb st)
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BTW, I did a whole series of spin-offs from Avro's TS-140 submission for the Anything Goes GB way back in early 2012:
-- https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=910.0
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Great stuff, Greg!
Don't forget the VTOL/STOVL option:
Indeed. That VTOL Canuck concept used the same Orenda-devised 'eyelid' flapper-valve cascade outlets as the 1956 'X-Wing' fighter for the US Navy's TS-140.
From Avro Canada's Oct 1956 brochure, "Proposal for VTOL Visual Fighter in Accordance with U.S. Navy Specification TS-140":
Maximum speed: Mach=1.75, climb/cruise Mach=0.9
Rate of Climb 55,600 ft/min (at sea level at Mach=0.9)
Ceiling (combat) 62,000 ft
Powerplants: 4 x Orenda-licenced Orpheus BOr.11 (5,760 lb st)
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BTW, I did a whole series of spin-offs from Avro's TS-140 submission for the Anything Goes GB way back in early 2012:
-- https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=910.0
https://5m0e8k-fr.myshopify.com/products/1-72-avro-canada-ts-140-vtol-interceptor
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https://5m0e8k-fr.myshopify.com/products/1-72-avro-canada-ts-140-vtol-interceptor (https://5m0e8k-fr.myshopify.com/products/1-72-avro-canada-ts-140-vtol-interceptor)
Thanks for the direct link, perttime.
For other contemporary aviation subjects, scautomoton has a thread* for his Machina Models 3D prints on Secret Projects:
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/some-cancelled-projects-and-what-ifs-i-brought-to-life-in-1-72-scale.51568/ (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/some-cancelled-projects-and-what-ifs-i-brought-to-life-in-1-72-scale.51568/)
* He has one on What If Modellers as well ... but you need to log in to view it.
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"But it don't snow here; It stays pretty green;
I'm gonna make a lot of money; Then I'm gonna quit this crazy scene"
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More Can-Con (sort of ...)
A 2-part entry on the Bristol (Fairchild) Brock - Canada's relatively unknown (and entirely ficticious) heavy fighter derived from the Bolingbroke bomber.
- https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg238726#msg238726
- https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg238727#msg238727
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"And everywhere you turn; There's vultures and thieves at your back;
The storm keeps on twisting; You keep on building the lies; That you make up for all that you lack"
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Mustn't forget the smaller, civvie stuff. Here, 'Twotters' in production at Viking's Pat Bay facility.
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LukGraph is now offering a Blackburn Shark Mk.II (wheels or floats) in 1/48 and 1/32.
-- https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=4877.msg235152#msg235152 (https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=4877.msg235152#msg235152)
That just leaves the question of when an RCAF Mk.III (or conversion kit) will be released?
-- https://www.ipmscanada.com/2018/10/20/aircraft-profiles-by-bob-aikens/ (https://www.ipmscanada.com/2018/10/20/aircraft-profiles-by-bob-aikens/)
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I toyed with putting my CAF Tucano here ... but, quite out of character for me, its backstory became extremely long ;D
-- https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg238853#msg238853
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We're a bit short on armour in this GB's Inspiration section.
So, naturally, that brings up the Canadian Ram - effectively, an American M3 chassis turned Cruiser Tank. And therein lay the problem - in part, putting a Cruiser-style MG turret on the Ram's hull resulted in a smallish turret ring diameter of only 60.5-inches (1,537 mm).
RW, that small turret ring resulting in the Ram seeing no combat (other than as turretless Ram Kangaroo carriers). Instead, Montreal Locomotive Works eventually switched production to the Grizzly medium tank - effectively an M4A1 copy on an improved Ram lower hull (also employed by the Sexton SP gun).
But what if a Close Support variant (with 75 mm gun or 3-inch howitzer) had been part of the Ram's original requirement? That Cruiser Tank requirement was issued too early for awareness of the future M4 Sherman's 69-inch (1,753 mm) turret ring. But a CS Ram variant might have prompted copying the 65-inch (1650 mm) turret ring size from the Afrika Korps' 75 mm-armed PzKpfw IVs?
So, what other whif developments might have turned Ram tanks from training vehicles to medium tanks actively taking the fight to the Wehrmacht?
-- https://www.tankarchives.com/2023/02/anglo-canadian-cruiser.html (https://www.tankarchives.com/2023/02/anglo-canadian-cruiser.html)
Image: Ram I cruisers come down the lines at Montreal Locomotive Works.
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"Went down through the streets and we never even saw a fight;
We had one look corner to corner, and we called it a night"
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So, naturally, that brings up the Canadian Ram -
Yes.. this GB coming AFTER I had completed my RAM out of the Box. There is certainly room for a bit of whiffing, considering the base chassis was used for the Sexton and a redimentary 3.7inch AA platform.
Dozer, engineering tank, ARV some other ideas.
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Yes.. this GB coming AFTER I had completed my RAM out of the Box...
The vagaries of life have a way of reminding us that chance is in charge ;D
... There is certainly room for a bit of whiffing, considering the base chassis was used for the Sexton and a redimentary 3.7inch AA platform. Dozer, engineering tank, ARV some other ideas.
All great suggestions. Some of these were actually done as RW conversions. I'm more than a little surprised that a turretless dozer tank wasn't.
Some Ram specialty conversions are show/described here:
-- https://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=112&art_id=4108 (https://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=112&art_id=4108)
My favorite is the Ram Porpoise BARV :smiley:
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Yes.. this GB coming AFTER I had completed my RAM out of the Box...
The vagaries of life have a way of reminding us that chance is in charge ;D
... There is certainly room for a bit of whiffing, considering the base chassis was used for the Sexton and a redimentary 3.7inch AA platform. Dozer, engineering tank, ARV some other ideas.
All great suggestions. Some of these were actually done as RW conversions. I'm more than a little surprised that a turretless dozer tank wasn't.
Some Ram specialty conversions are show/described here:
-- https://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=112&art_id=4108 (https://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=112&art_id=4108)
My favorite is the Ram Porpoise BARV :smiley:
Was that built on purpose?
;D
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(https://tankmuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Ram-Feature.png)
https://tankmuseum.org/tank-nuts/tank-collection/ram-ii/
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This has been posted in other threads....
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/1202-canada-machine-gun-moose-rifle-warrior-weapon-jpg.704816/)
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Iroquois-powered versions of the THunderchief and Delta Dart (F-106)?
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Iroquois-powered versions of the THunderchief and Delta Dart (F-106)?
Here you go:
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So, what other whif developments might have turned Ram tanks from training vehicles to medium tanks actively taking the fight to the Wehrmacht?
I had the idea to fit a Skink anti-air turret onto a Ram hull but I unfortunately cant work on any models at the moment :/
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I had the idea to fit a Skink anti-air turret onto a Ram hull but I unfortunately cant work on any models at the moment :/
A pity that! Its a great concept :smiley:
That makes me wonder about other Ram/Sexton GBAD opportunities. According to Tank Encyclopedia, the proof-of-concept for the OQF 3.7" AA on Ram Mounting was created under Project 14A. The conceptually-related but unbuilt Project 14B was to be a similar conversion but armed with a 40 mm Bofors L/60 AA gun.
After MLW stripped the upper hull parts off of a Ram, the Project 14A conversion was undertaken by CGE ('Genelco') at Peterborough, ON - where the OQF 3.7" piece was being manufactured. However, Bofors for the Canadian military during WW2, were license-made by Otis-Fensom in Hamilton, ON. Perhaps Otis-Fensom were also to be responsible for the Project 14B conversion?
Anyway, based on the OQF 3.7" AA on Ram Mounting upper hull (such as it was), I have guesstimated what the Project 14B with Bofors gun might have looked like ...
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"Big birds flying across the sky. Throwing shadows on our eyes."
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For figure modellers: Canadian Rangers' version of Meals Ready to Eat (based on a Nunatsiaq News photo).
Bonus Arctic trivia contest: Combine "MIL-PRF-63460G CLP", "-45°C", and "molasses" in a complete sentence ;)
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Civilian aircraft are unrepresented here. There have been a number of Candian bushplane kits - the old 1/72 Norseman is the best-known. But there have others ... from Fairchild vacuforms right up to a snap-fit Beaver in 1/24. With heaps of work, that promotional (Canadian Mist whiskey) Beaver kit could be turned into a detailed work of art!
-- https://www.hyperscale.com/2009/features/dhc224gm_1.htm (https://www.hyperscale.com/2009/features/dhc224gm_1.htm)
There have been 1/144 kits of various commuter airliners - DHC-7s, DHC-8s, CRJs, etc. - from Welsh Models, Model Design Construction, and the like. But my personal favorite is the Avro Canada C.102 Jetliner ...
There was a limited-run resin kit (FR14032) in 1/144 from F-RSIN. That is likely an eBay find nowadays ... but it did come with a metal undercarriage and decals.
Another eBay find might be the 1/72 scale Jetliner from Execuform for those who don't mind vacuform builds.
Then, there is a free 3D print version of the C.102 on Printables. It was designed for ~1/305 scale but said to scale to 1/61 (based on a feet to mm conversion). Others would know better but that suggests that this file should rescale to more common sizes - like 1/144 or 1/72 scale.
-- https://www.printables.com/model/12369-c-102-avro-jetliner (https://www.printables.com/model/12369-c-102-avro-jetliner)
-- https://www.printables.com/model/12369-c-102-avro-jetliner/comments (https://www.printables.com/model/12369-c-102-avro-jetliner/comments)
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(https://media.invisioncic.com/c334187/monthly_2020_06/3.jpg.649d99a14cfb7f631907cbffb314ee46.jpg)
(https://media.invisioncic.com/c334187/monthly_2020_06/2.jpg.29387b1194b03e16bfec789aebd14ea8.jpg)
(https://i.redd.it/th4ryz4oynx31.png)
(https://www.henrytenby.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/AirCanadaConcordes.jpg)
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There are a couple of balsa kits of Alexander Graham Bell's Hydrodome #4 hydrofoil:
https://ayptravels.com/2019-nova-scotia-part-4-cape-breton-bells-hydrofoils/
A submarine hull, some HO bridges and you could be almost there!
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Was this illustration the British SST or the American version?
The last two are Boeing dreams.
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Was this illustration the British SST or the American version?
The first three all look like Concordes.
[Edit] Forgot to mention that Canada had is own, domestic SST design the Avro Canada STAT project. See:
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/avro-canada-sst-feasibility-study.5181/ (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/avro-canada-sst-feasibility-study.5181/)
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/late-50s-avro-canada-projects.5182/ (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/late-50s-avro-canada-projects.5182/)
When Avro Canada tanked, Advanced Projects Group leader John Frost returned to the UK. There, he joined the Hawker Siddeley SST team working on Britain's Supersonic Transport Advisory Committee requirment ... so, stretching a point (a lot), you could claim that Avro Canada's STAT study played a minor and rather distant role contribution to Concorde.
(Ultimately, STAC supported development of the resulting HSA.1000 ... although its was actually the competing Bristol 198 design that would form the Brit side of Concorde. /trivia )
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Was this illustration the British SST or the American version?
The last two are Boeing dreams.
There's a mix of Concorde's and others there.
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(https://hosting.photobucket.com/a07712f7-3378-4f37-b261-f34176123eec/646000fe-0abc-4440-b9c4-ab9c202fac60.jpg)
Strike from the North (https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=11839.msg239130#msg239130)
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Some semi-random Canuck-related links from the Secret Projects Forum ...
As its title suggests, this one lists some Victory Aircraft projects. (The attempt to fill in Victory project numbers is highly speculative ... but could be suggestive for what-if scenarios?)
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/victory-aircraft-ltd-projects.40169/ (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/victory-aircraft-ltd-projects.40169/)
Another SPF title is 'Canadian Navigation Trainer Competition for RCAF' ... which should read 'Competitions' since they had to take multiple stabs at the requirement. After WW2, both the Avro Canada C.101 and Fairchild Canada F-8 designs were rendered as mockups. (Then the RCAF realised that it could convert war-surplus Mitchells for a song.)
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/canadian-navigation-trainer-competition-for-rcaf.40224/ (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/canadian-navigation-trainer-competition-for-rcaf.40224/)
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And Canadian armoured vehicle stuff from SPF ...
A rather infamous Cold War Canadian development was the Bobcat - meant to fill APC and various carrier roles. Concept, design, and executions were all a mess!
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/canadian-xa-20-apc.1929/ (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/canadian-xa-20-apc.1929/)
Related: AN/MPQ-501 counter-mortar radar (planned Bobcat mount):
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/saracen-in-canada.36363/#post-433830 (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/saracen-in-canada.36363/#post-433830)
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Some other SPF links to failed Canadian armoured vehicle projects during WW2. They can't all be winners! :P
4x6, 6x8, 8x8? The Wolf heavy armoured car (with Ram I turret!)
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/canadian-wolf-heavy-armoured-car-from-wwii.28943/ (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/canadian-wolf-heavy-armoured-car-from-wwii.28943/)
Another dog, the Universal Scout Car, received no name at all:
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/universal-scout-car-canadian.14525/ (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/universal-scout-car-canadian.14525/)
Small car, big gun prototype:
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/an-experimental-anti-tank-lynx-armoured-car-prototype.39793/ (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/an-experimental-anti-tank-lynx-armoured-car-prototype.39793/)
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(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/tempImagelWudac.heic)
Commonwealth Lightning Storm (https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=11225.0)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/tempImagesdOivD.heic)
Missileers over the North (https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=11176.0)
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Another RW Canadian Vehicle - The Benighted Bobcat
During the Cold War era, Canada became somewhat infamous for cancelled projects. Some had great promise but were chopped for economic or purely political reasons. Others were just dragged-out efforts to turn sow's ears into silk purses. And there is no better example of the latter than the Canadian Army's Bobcat APC.
The corporate development history of the Bobcat sounds like the run-up to a typical barroom joke. Begun by Leyland (Canada); it was taken over by CCF; which, in turn, was gobbled up by Avro Canada; which tanked leaving the Bobcat in the horrified hands of parent firm, Hawker Siddeley Canada; only for DND to junk the entire, decade-long development process.
The conceptual and mechanical downsides of the Bobcat are well-covered on the web. Any upsides? Well, the Bobcat was more compact than the US M113 then just entering service. [1] It had wider tracks than contemporary APCs. [2] And it was a good swimmer in contrast with the FV432 which entered British service the year that Bobcat was scrapped. [1]
Polishing a Turd? - The Whif Bobcat II
So, could anything have been salvaged from the original Bobcat programme. Probably not ... but are we not whiffers?
The worst part of the Bobcat was its drivetrain arrangement - engine in the front; driveshaft passing through the rear compartment; driving a bulky transaxle at the back. From the dismounts' PoV, the worst bit was a very cramped rear compartment. But, as soon as the larger-capacity Hercules transport enters the equation, the Bobcat could be made both wider and taller.
In the attached image, my what-if Bobcat II (left) is contrasted with the RW Bobcat (right). The biggest change is mechanical - I've switched to front sprockets driven by a pancake engine beneath the crew (à la Pbv 302). Both crew and dismounts now sit much higher (and the turret gunner - who now has 360° traverse - has been shifted up and slightly aft).
Online specs guesstimate that the Bobcat carried 13 dismounts ... which I find ludicrous. I'm going to drop that to standard 1960 Canadian infantry squad size - 8 x other ranks plus 1 x NCO or officer. Even with a taller compartment, that'll be a squeeze with winter gear - hence the 'toboggan rack' at the rear for skis, snow shoes, and other excess gear.
Anyone have details on other obscure Canadian military vehicles? Or notions of how to improve better-known types?
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[1] The reason for that small size was that the Bobcat had to be carried in the RCAF's tactical transport - the Fairchild C-119. In the end, the GoC became fed up with DND's ditherings. The C-119 midlife plan was cancelled and Ottawa forced the replacement CC-130B Hercules on the RCAF. Meanwhile, the entire Bobcat programmed was junked and petrol-powered M113s bought for the Canadian Army.
Some APC comparisons (we'll see how this displays) ...
Meas. Bobcat M113 FV432
Mass 8 tons 13.6 tons 15 tons
Length 4.80 m 4.86 m 5.25 m
Width 1.88 m 2.67 m 2.55 m
Height 1.93 m 2.50 m 2.28 m
Crew 2 + 13 2 + 11-15 2 + 10
[2] These were 'rubber-band' tracks derived from 1950s snowmobiles. Good for saving weight. Not so good for durability over non-snowy surfaces!
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-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobcat_(armoured_personnel_carrier) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobcat_(armoured_personnel_carrier))
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/canadian-xa-20-apc.1929/ (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/canadian-xa-20-apc.1929/)
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It is getting a bit late for Canadian Group Build 'Inspiration' but I just had to post this one ...
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A humorous interlude.
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Diorama? 1/350 or 1/700?
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TSR-2.
1/72 409 SQN
(https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/1/4/6/963146-10105-41-pristine.jpg)
1/48 425 SQN:
(https://www.hyperscale.com/2008/reviews/decals/p7hg_img_69/fullsize/X48070_fs.jpg)
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(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/cessna-l-19e-bird-dog-mobile-command-1967-the-net-png.900243/)
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(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/canadair-f-86e-mk5-401-aux-sqn-downsview-ontario-the-net-png.900369/)
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(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/ch-113a-voyageur-aircraft-based-at-rivers-manitoba-lifting-an-army-vehicle-1967-the-net-png.900370/)
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Lovely shots, Greg! Especially the one of that 1 THP CH-113A Voyageur at CJATC :-*
BTW: A pair of retired CH-113As (11307 and 11312) went to Columbia Helicopters in Oregon but, AFAIK, neither airframes flew again (being raided for spares).
TSR-2....
Carl: One pedantic quibble with Xtradecal's TSR2 whif ... their CAF designations 'CF-109/CF-109A'. Whither the Cosmos? ;D
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Here’s a crazy thought. A CH-46 done up as a flying camper/caravan. A big W on the sides.
(https://www.thedrive.com/wp-content/uploads/images-by-url-td/content/2018/11/sb-hero.jpg?quality=85&w=1250)
Maybe not the wings.
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Lovely shots, Greg! Especially the one of that 1 THP CH-113A Voyageur at CJATC :-*
BTW: A pair of retired CH-113As (11307 and 11312) went to Columbia Helicopters in Oregon but, AFAIK, neither airframes flew again (being raided for spares).
TSR-2....
Carl: One pedantic quibble with Xtradecal's TSR2 whif ... their CAF designations 'CF-109/CF-109A'. Whither the Cosmos? ;D
I noticed that too Stephen.
Maybe The head of Air Command sat down with the Cosmo's and so sorry boys but you're just not cool enough. We are giving your designation to the TSR.2.
A personal gripe: The RCAF/CAF has almost contiguously used every number in the designation system: Cx-100 to 150. Note only Cx-102 and Cx-103 are free. And after CC-150, there more gaps.
I have planned for some Cx-90-99 builds.
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A personal gripe: The RCAF/CAF has almost contiguously used every number in the designation system: Cx-100 to 150. Note only Cx-102 and Cx-103 are free. And after CC-150, there more gaps.
I have planned for some Cx-90-99 builds.
Quite so! And I have an additional gripe...
Why did DND apply post-Unification designations to so many aircraft types that had already stopped flying (or were about to)? Spinning off from your "Cx-90-99" idea, the 'Puzzle Palace' could have assigned such designations to types that were already in the disposal silo or weren't to last long? </grumpy:mode>
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(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/boeing-vertol-ch-113a-voyageur-1964-the-net-png.901853/)
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And Voyageur 10410 has pulled ahead by a rotor system ... ;D
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(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/boeing-vertol-ch-113a-voyageur-1964-the-net-png.901853/)
They really do look like bullfrogs! ;D