Author Topic: Lightning P1 Resurrection  (Read 791 times)

Offline Robomog

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Lightning P1 Resurrection
« on: April 25, 2021, 07:51:33 PM »
Hi all

This is a project that was started some time ago and has been put on the backburner so many times I  have lost the the original progress shots.

Here's the original model.....

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The Heron in the background has already been restored.

So here is the brief, I want to resurrect the P1 using as much of the original as possible but I also want to make it a bit more presentable.

So objectives

1. Try and rescue the canopy

2. Cut out the forward blanking plate and move it backwards so it is less noticeable

3. Cut out the cockpit and pilot head area and add a proper cockpit/pilot

5. Add some jet pipes and and additional blanking plate at the back

4. Recreate the undercarriage and doors

And the story so far......

It has been taken apart (sort of, Mog the Younger was very generous with the glue in those days) and some of the replacement parts have been sourced from an incomplete Lightning kit.

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The forward blanking plate and cockpit have been cut out and I am working on the cockpit detail, based around a Lightnig F6 seat and console

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The jet pipes have been installed

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The canopy has been revived somewhat but it's far from good, I will tack it place temporarily until I can source a decent part or  attempt to mold one

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I have a lot of surface faults to clear up, mostly caused by myself trying to weaponise the aircraft for wargaming, but also some kit faults like those ejector marks on the wheel doors and fine raised lines where the decals should go.

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This is gonna take a bit longer than I thought  ;)

Thanks for looking.......


Mog
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« Last Edit: April 26, 2021, 08:03:57 AM by Robomog »
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Offline Buzzbomb

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2021, 02:33:30 PM »
Working with old gold there. Looking forward to how it comes out at the end

Offline apophenia

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2021, 09:28:11 AM »
Me too! Great to see a classic being restored  :smiley:
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Offline Robomog

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2021, 07:42:54 AM »
Thanks guys, a bit more progress

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The cockpit tub now fits and a forward blanking plate has been installed. This leaves a convenient pocket under the pilots seat to place the nose weight. I did toy with contouring the inside of the air intake but whimped out,  way too many curves  ::)

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I have virtually completed rubbing down all the pools of dried glue, so a bit of filling to do before the main assembly and more filler.

More when it happens...........

Mob
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Offline Kerick

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2021, 01:14:41 PM »
Have you considered a soak in Simple Green or similar degreaser to remove the old paint? The old paint may not play well with the new stuff.

Offline Robomog

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2021, 04:52:28 PM »
Good point, no I havent. Thx

I've read somewhere that soaking in Dettol softens paint I will probably try that

Mind you by the time I've filled and sanded all the joints theres not going to be much left  :D


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Offline kitnut617

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2021, 09:26:32 PM »
Have you tried finding an Aeroclub canopy for it, I've got one of their P.1 conversions in my stash, it's buried at the moment but I can't remember if you got two canopies in the kit.   ---

Offline Buzzbomb

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2021, 07:32:59 AM »
All the prep steps will pay dividends. If you are going back to a natural metal finish, as we all have discovered at some time no doubt, some blemishes tend to start a Mexican Wave to highlight their existence.


Offline Frank3k

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2021, 08:04:26 AM »
Have you tried heat smashing a new canopy? As long as the original is well supported internally, you should be able to get a good duplicate (after several tries). Clear plastic packaging is often styrene or buterate and deforms quickly from the heat of a candle or flame (I use a small alcohol burner).

Offline Robomog

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2021, 08:39:26 AM »
Thanks for the advice chaps

Kitnut:- I have tried to locate an Aeroclub canopy but they are as rare as rocking horse poo and probably very expensive.  I've seen the conversion kit on Ebay but that is also rare and extremely expensive, I'm pretty sure there is only one canopy in the kit. :(

Buzz:- I  know what you mean, natural aluminium shows EVERYTHING I will need to do some serious prep and priming :-\

Frank:-  if time permits I may try that, after all I do have the original (battered) canopy as a guide  ;)

Thanks again

Mog
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Offline Robomog

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2021, 03:35:49 AM »
Hi all

Made some good progress, the body is back together and the joints filled and sanded.

Currently putting the wings back on and sorting out the joins on those.

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Mind you Erik my bench buddy was less than impressed...........

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"Dude, like you need more filler on those joints"

More when it happens...........

Mog
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Offline Kerick

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2021, 09:33:23 AM »
Thatís a big cat or a tiny model!

Offline Robomog

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2021, 05:16:59 PM »
Ha ha!  I think it's big cat in this instance, the model is 1/72 scale.

He was slightly closer to the phone camera when I took the shot  so maybe the auto focus has exaggerated things a bit ;D

Mog
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Offline robunos

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2021, 09:53:03 PM »
Ha ha!  I think it's big cat in this instance, the model is 1/72 scale.

He was slightly closer to the phone camera when I took the shot  so maybe the auto focus has exaggerated things a bit ;D

Mog
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Offline kitnut617

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2021, 11:03:28 PM »
Don't take it to Australia then, they just shoot 'big' cats ----   ;D ;D ;D

Offline Kerick

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2021, 01:28:03 AM »
If you let him out in the garden do neighbors report a puma in the area?

Offline Robomog

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2021, 08:06:25 PM »
Ha ha ha ! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Havent seen anything on the news yet, I wonder what happened to Kitten Kong ?

Mog
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Offline Robomog

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2021, 09:05:39 PM »
Hi All

Just a small update.

I've finished the filling and sanding (well maybe) and given it a good polish with toothpaste to get rid of all the fine scratches and then given it a coat of white primer to expose any further flaws.

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On the whole it came out very well ,  except the bits where I hadn't cleaned all the tooth paste off enough  :-\

Next will be a coat of black prior to spraying silver and the canopy has to be sorted, but this one is going on to the backburner for a bit so I can concentrate on a group build

Thanks for looking ............


Mog
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« Last Edit: June 13, 2021, 03:01:12 AM by Robomog »
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Offline apophenia

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Re: Lightning P1 Resurrection
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2021, 07:42:15 AM »
Looking great so far  :smiley:  Erik-the-Bench-Buddy can keep an eye on this build until you're back from the GB  ;)
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