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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #300 on: September 27, 2025, 05:54:51 PM »
Very nice!

I too love your Pfalz D.XVI   :-*   I'm seeing Bf 109 mixed with a bit of Fiat G.55 ... but maybe with typically Pfalz plywood-skinned Wickelrumpf construction?  ;)

Your AETA Thulin V is also very cool! I'm not sure what this Typ V's basis/bases was/were but it is the backstory that most intrigues.

The usual telling is that the May 1919 death of Enoch Thulin combined with post-WW1 economic downturn spells the beginning of the end of AETA. So, in this ATL, does Enoch survive? If not, does AETA still stand for AB Enoch Thulins Aeroplanfabrik? Inquiring minds need to know, Arc'  ;D

The Pfalz is more of a G.55 with a bit of Me-109 and a pinch of Ki-84 and the work intensive wood construction has been abbandoned for allmetal construction.

Ofcourse AETA stands for AB Enoch Thulins Aeroplanfabrik afterall did the roaring twenties not get their name from the roar of Thulin cars and motorcycles?

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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #301 on: September 27, 2025, 07:51:17 PM »
Finnish LaGG variant

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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #302 on: September 28, 2025, 03:18:35 AM »
Finnish LaGG variant

Very nice! The Daimler suits that LaGG airframe surprisingly well. And, of course, everything looks better in Ilmavoimat colours  :smiley:

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Ofcourse AETA stands for AB Enoch Thulins Aeroplanfabrik afterall did the roaring twenties not get their name from the roar of Thulin cars and motorcycles?

 ;D ;D
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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #303 on: September 28, 2025, 08:12:49 AM »
nice but he spinner looks a bit odd, would the one from a Sturmovik be better ?

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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #304 on: September 28, 2025, 01:25:25 PM »
nice but he spinner looks a bit odd, would the one from a Sturmovik be better ?

On the LaGG?

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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #305 on: September 29, 2025, 04:04:20 AM »
nice but he spinner looks a bit odd, would the one from a Sturmovik be better ?

On the LaGG?

If so, I've got to disagree ... assuming that this LaGG is actually a Finnish production (or re-engining). In that case, I'd expect it to follow the pattern of the VL Pyörremyrsky. So, as shown - a German-supplied VDM propeller with a Bf 109G-style spinner.
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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #306 on: September 29, 2025, 09:19:37 AM »
nice but he spinner looks a bit odd, would the one from a Sturmovik be better ?

On the LaGG?

If so, I've got to disagree ... assuming that this LaGG is actually a Finnish production (or re-engining). In that case, I'd expect it to follow the pattern of the VL Pyörremyrsky. So, as shown - a German-supplied VDM propeller with a Bf 109G-style spinner.

It would be a Finnish re-build along the lines of the Mörkö-Morane

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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #307 on: October 01, 2025, 09:38:08 AM »
Just testing markings for the Royal Syrian Air Force


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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #308 on: October 02, 2025, 12:50:35 AM »
 :smiley:
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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #309 on: October 02, 2025, 09:04:08 AM »
Just testing markings for the Royal Syrian Air Force

Nice effect - stone, sand, and scrubland  :smiley:

But what is the aircraft? (I'm getting both Bloch and IAR 80 vibes from this one)  :D
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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #310 on: October 02, 2025, 03:10:47 PM »
Just testing markings for the Royal Syrian Air Force

Nice effect - stone, sand, and scrubland  :smiley:

But what is the aircraft? (I'm getting both Bloch and IAR 80 vibes from this one)  :D

Its based on the IAR-47 project

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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #311 on: October 03, 2025, 04:56:21 AM »
Its based on the IAR-47 project

Aha! Very clever  :smiley: :D
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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #312 on: October 06, 2025, 01:51:57 AM »
Götaverken GP.23 as delivered in 1939

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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #313 on: October 06, 2025, 08:01:01 AM »
Götaverken GP.23 as delivered in 1939

I like it ... Götaverken is getting about as esoteric as they go  :smiley:

And this one is giving strong Rogožarski IK-3 vibes. Nice!
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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #314 on: October 06, 2025, 08:26:40 PM »
Reports from Finland indicated that the GP.23 needed heavier armament to be more efficent in engagements against attack and bomber aircraft thus a new wing with 20 mm guns were designed and introduced, seen here in experimental camouflage playing the Red Force (and with a possible Axis Sweden nationality marking)

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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #315 on: October 06, 2025, 08:28:15 PM »
Götaverken GP.23 as delivered in 1939

I like it ... Götaverken is getting about as esoteric as they go  :smiley:

And this one is giving strong Rogožarski IK-3 vibes. Nice!

It does have an IK-3 tail as well as PZL.50 bits

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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #316 on: October 07, 2025, 04:40:55 AM »
It does have an IK-3 tail as well as PZL.50 bits

Ah ... that canopy did look familiar (but the elliptical wings should've been the tip off!). Love these ID bits games  :D
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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #317 on: October 08, 2025, 01:21:06 PM »
I was thinking what if the Finns along with the various Blenheim stuff they got from the germans also get the tools and jigs for the IK-3?

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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #318 on: October 10, 2025, 08:25:22 PM »
VL Haamuolento prototype


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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #319 on: October 11, 2025, 04:15:50 AM »
VL Haamuolento prototype

Nice! Like the name too  :smiley:
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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #320 on: October 11, 2025, 06:59:07 AM »
VL Haamuolento prototype

Nice! Like the name too  :smiley:

Thanks, wanted to call it Revenant but couldn´t find the finnish word for it

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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #321 on: Yesterday at 04:54:38 AM »
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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #322 on: Yesterday at 12:56:23 PM »
VL Haamuolento prototype

Nice! Like the name too  :smiley:

Thanks, wanted to call it Revenant but couldn´t find the finnish word for it
It is an understandable word. I see a couple of issues, as a VL name, though:
- it is understandable but not really a word that people would ordinarily use
- VL mainly used names that referred to natural phenomena. In WW2 times primarily different types of winds.

If you want something like "ghost", a person who came back from dead to haunt people, you could call it "haamu", "aave", or "kummitus"

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Re: Arc´s bashes
« Reply #323 on: Yesterday at 09:25:56 PM »
VL Haamuolento prototype

Nice! Like the name too  :smiley:

Thanks, wanted to call it Revenant but couldn´t find the finnish word for it
It is an understandable word. I see a couple of issues, as a VL name, though:
- it is understandable but not really a word that people would ordinarily use
- VL mainly used names that referred to natural phenomena. In WW2 times primarily different types of winds.

If you want something like "ghost", a person who came back from dead to haunt people, you could call it "haamu", "aave", or "kummitus"

I am aware that VL usually named its projects after winds but I wanted to emphasize that this was something returned from the dead (in this case the IK-3).
Since I don´t speak finnish I used online traslators both from english and swedish to get a suitable name and all answers I got when I did a reverse translation was the generic "ghost".
I expected that more of swedish folklore had its twin in Finland such as gengångare (revenant), vålnad (wraith) and myling (nothing synonymous in english) but all translated into the words for ghost that you mentioned however one of the online translators suggested adding lento to emphasize it is something returning from the dead