Author Topic: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2  (Read 336540 times)

Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #800 on: March 22, 2025, 09:36:10 PM »
That’s just outstanding!!! So complex and yet it appears you’ve built every part of it! Museum quality.

Many thanks - it is indeed the most complex scratch build I have taken on so far.  Had I realised what I was getting myself into, I probably would not have bother but you know how it is - once you start there’s no going back!  ;)
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #801 on: March 23, 2025, 06:48:31 AM »
I see some commonality/inspiration from the ground launched IRIS-T:



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Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #802 on: March 23, 2025, 11:22:20 PM »
Indeed a very similar concept to the current truck-mounted Sky Sabre system as use by the UK and Poland.  Although IRIS-T  has an IR seeker rather than active terminal guidance system and uses a traditional a hot-launch system rather than the Sky Sabre/CAMM cold-launch technique. 



« Last Edit: March 24, 2025, 04:48:38 PM by Claymore »
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #803 on: March 26, 2025, 10:23:50 PM »
I think of myself as a tolerably good scratch builder, but this is two orders of magnitude above. Frank's right-the engineering alone is amazing.

Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #804 on: March 27, 2025, 09:21:10 PM »
I think of myself as a tolerably good scratch builder, but this is two orders of magnitude above. Frank's right-the engineering alone is amazing.

Thank you kind Sir.  :smiley:

I must admit that I really enjoy the challenge of researching and building something that might actually have stood a chance of being a real vehicle/weapon system.  A good part of that enjoyment comes from trying to understand how it all works (or might have worked) in order to get the engineering aspect close to the mark, or at the very least, believable.

Unfortunately, I am now at the stage of the build I enjoy the least - painting… It always takes forever and detracts from/delays the next project that is bubbling up!  ;)
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Offline Kerick

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #805 on: March 28, 2025, 12:19:24 AM »
I hear ya about the painting! One thing that drives me nuts about it is some of the details I’ve tried to include can get buried under coats of paint. Then if something goes wrong with the paint itself I want to just walk away from the whole thing. I’m getting better with the airbrush and that helps a lot.

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #806 on: March 28, 2025, 01:55:45 AM »
I hear ya about the painting! One thing that drives me nuts about it is some of the details I’ve tried to include can get buried under coats of paint. Then if something goes wrong with the paint itself I want to just walk away from the whole thing. I’m getting better with the airbrush and that helps a lot.

Yup.  :(

It’s matt clear coat, in particular, that does my head in.  You spend forever getting the paint right and then the whole thing is potentially ruined by the clear coat blooming. For all the models I have built, I am still to find a reliable matt varnish.  :-X
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Offline Kerick

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #807 on: March 28, 2025, 07:22:27 AM »
I still have the best results from Testors or Model Master enamels. Testors gloss or dullcoat and off you go.

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #808 on: March 28, 2025, 07:44:24 AM »
Indeed a very similar concept to the current truck-mounted Sky Sabre system as use by the UK and Poland...

The image of that Sky Sabre launcher is nice ... but that model is nowhere near as good as yours!  :smiley:
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #809 on: March 28, 2025, 06:53:09 PM »
You are most kind!  ;)
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #810 on: March 28, 2025, 06:57:14 PM »
I still have the best results from Testors or Model Master enamels. Testors gloss or dullcoat and off you go.

Hmmm, I take that is using an airbrush?  Unfortunately, I am currently sans airbrush until I sort my garage (and new spray booth) out - Mrs Claymore has banned using said airbrush in the house…  :(
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #811 on: April 02, 2025, 09:10:13 PM »
I still have the best results from Testors or Model Master enamels. Testors gloss or dullcoat and off you go.

Well, not really wanting to tempt fate but… I think I may just have found my ideal rattle can matte varnish/clear coat.  Covers well, goes on like a dream, gives an excellent finish and… and… absolutely no blooming!  :smiley:

What is it? Canvas Varnish from mtm of Spain.  I’ve used some of their other products before but never thought of trying canvas varnish.  It cost me £10 from my local Hobbycraft but at four times the quantity of a 100ml Revell can at £8 it’s great value too!  :))
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Offline Kerick

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #812 on: April 03, 2025, 03:16:18 AM »
Oh yeah! The small rattle cans from the hobby store are priced like they contain unicorn piss. I’m going to check out that canvas varnish.
One problem today is I’m never sure what type of material I’m buying. Is it enamel, acrylic or lacquer? They all have the typical petroleum ingredients and some cans don’t say what they are on the label. I’ve always been told never spray lacquer over enamel or acrylics but it’s not that simple anymore.

Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #813 on: April 13, 2025, 11:41:44 PM »
Sky Sabre (Tracked):

This model represents the fourth and final installment of my proposal which sought to provide an AH remedy to the real-life tragedy that is the history of modern British land-based air defence. The previous models - Bloodhound Mk 4 (TEL and ECV), Guardian (TEL and ECV) and Excalibur - are described in full earlier in this thread and so I won't rehash them here.

The AH Sky Sabre (Tracked) is a fully tracked version of the truck-mounted Sky Sabre system currently operated by the British Army and is envisaged to fulfil the SHORAD role for the British Army's forward deployed armoured formations in Poland - a distinctly possible scenario given the current political and military instability on NATO's eastern flank.

Sky Sabre is built around MBDA's Common Anti-air Modular Missile (CAMM) which is derived from and shares some common components with the Advanced Short-Range Air-to-Air Missile (ASRAAM) but with updated electronics, a vertical cold-launch system and an active radar homing seeker. (1) The launcher carries 12 ready use missiles all of which are capable of being independently targeted via a data link to multiple land and air-based cuing sensors. As a reversionary back up the launcher also has its own passive thermo-optical tracker.

Both the actual truck-mounted system and my proposed tracked version share a palletised missile rack system based on the tried and tested Demountable Rack Offload and Pickup System (DROPS) which allows the launcher to self-load and unload its missile pallet using an integral hook and its primary hydraulic system.

The model is built on the hull of Dragon's M270 with a whole lot of home-grown scratch build and 3D print on the back. The whole thing has been a marathon task of design research and mechanical/build challenges which have stretched the little grey cells - great fun!

Notes:
1: CAMM (missile family) - Wikipedia

Travel Configuration:








Firing Configuration:








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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #814 on: April 14, 2025, 12:56:59 AM »
That is an amazing build! Just beautiful.

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #815 on: April 14, 2025, 04:46:51 AM »
Outstanding.  I know many a real world defence contractor who would appreciate your builds.
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #816 on: April 14, 2025, 06:11:28 AM »
That is an amazing build! Just beautiful.

Thanks Frank!  :smiley:

Outstanding.  I know many a real world defence contractor who would appreciate your builds.

Much appreciated Greg.  I wonder how much they would pay…  ;)
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #817 on: April 14, 2025, 06:42:56 AM »
As Greg said.. this is corporate glass stuff, with a higher quality build standard.

This last year, your builds have been inspiring stuff

Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #818 on: April 14, 2025, 03:34:35 PM »
As Greg said.. this is corporate glass stuff, with a higher quality build standard.

This last year, your builds have been inspiring stuff

Thanks mate, praise indeed.  I think it’s retirement that has now given me the opportunity to, once again, really enjoy my hobby and to take my time and think things through properly.   ;)
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #819 on: April 14, 2025, 05:42:17 PM »
Damn! 8) :-* 8)

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Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #820 on: April 14, 2025, 06:02:12 PM »
Damn! 8) :-* 8)

Words fail me! Magnificent! :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:


Thank you good Sir, much appreciated.  :smiley:
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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #821 on: April 14, 2025, 07:13:58 PM »
Amazing work! Master class scratch building.

Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #822 on: April 14, 2025, 07:51:45 PM »
Amazing work! Master class scratch building.

Thanks mate!  :smiley:
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Offline Kerick

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #823 on: April 14, 2025, 10:29:44 PM »
I’m going back to knitting!
Just outstanding!
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Claymore's AH AFVs: Take 2
« Reply #824 on: April 15, 2025, 12:12:54 AM »
I’m going back to knitting!
Just outstanding!
Take it to parliament, maybe some politicians will get inspired.

Thanks mate!  :smiley:
Yup, and pigs might fly!  ;)
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