8x8 and more...

[Rickshaw]

The Eitan (Herbew for persistent) is a new Israeli Armored Personnel Carrier (APC). It is currently being developed to meet requirements of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). It is the first wheeled 8x8 APC, developed in Israel. The IDF plans to replace gradually its tracked M113 APCs with a new armored vehicle. A prototype of the Eitan was first publicly revealed in 2016. It is planned that this prototype will be tested within the following years. Its full-scale production could commence in 2018.

   The Eitan has a typical layout for a modern APC. It weights around 30 - 35 t and is likely to be well protected. Actually it could be one of the most protected wheeled APCs in the world. Vehicle has a V-shaped hull for improved protection against mines and improvised explosive devices. Though there were no official data regarding its ballistic and mine protection. Most likely that all-round protection is against 12.7 mm or 14.5 mm armor-piercing rounds. In terms of mine protection it is likely that this vehicle was designed to withstand blasts equivalent to 10 kg of TNT. The Eitan can be reportedly fitted with Israeli Trophy active protection system, which

   Prototype of the Eitan is fitted with a remotely controlled weapon station, armed with a 12.7 mm machine gun. There is also a pintle-mounted 7.62 mm machine gun. Though most likely that other weapons, such as 30 mm or 40 mm automatic cannons, will be also available on production version of the Eitan.

   The Eitan has more internal space than the M113. It is operated by a crew of 3 and can carry 9 soldiers. Troops enter the vehicle and dismount via a rear power-operated ramp with integral door.

   This APC is powered by a turbocharged diesel engine, developing 750 hp. Vehicle is fitted with a central tyre inflation system, which improves mobility over difficult terrain, such as sand. Tyres are fitted with run flat system. For a limited range of up to 16 km the Eitan can travel on deflated tyres. Though when the tyres are flat maximum speed is limited to 50 km/h. This vehicle is not amphibious.

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[Rickshaw]

In 2017 Japan has revealed a prototype of a next-generation 8x8 Armored Personnel Carrier (APC). It was designed to replace the Type 96, which is in service with the Japan Ground Self-Defense Force (JGSDF) since 1996. The project is known as Wheeled Armored Vehicle (Improved). The prototype of the new APC was built by Komatsu. Its construction commenced in 2015. It was first publicly revealed in 2017. Originally it was planned that development will be completed in 2018. However recently it was announced that development will be completed only in 2021. Full scale production could start following the trials.

   Comparing with the previous Type 96, the new Japanese 8x8 APC is longer, taller, much heavier, better protected and faster. It has more internal volume and higher payload capacity.

   The new Japanese APC was developed as a modular vehicle. A swappable mission module can be fitted at the rear of the hull. There could be modules for different purposes. So a basic chassis can be configured as infantry carrier, command vehicle, ambulance, supply carrier and so on. Though this concept is not new. The Dutch/German Boxer, which entered service back in 2009, also has modular structure.

   The new Japan's APC will have improved protection over the Type 96. It has a steel armor hull with add-on armor. Vehicle has a V-shaped hull for improved protection against mines and improvised explosive devices. Passive protection systems include a laser warning device, that can trigger smoke grenade dischargers. This vehicle is fitted with NBC protection system.

   So far the prototype carries no armament. It is believed that a new remotely controlled weapon station is being developed for this armored vehicle. Eventually the baseline APC could be armed with a 12.7 mm machine gun, 40 mm automatic grenade launcher, or even more powerful armament.

   In its basic form this new Japanese APC has a crew of 3 and can carry 8 dismounts. Troops enter and leave the vehicle via the rear power-operated ramp with integral doors. There are roof hatches for firing or emergency exit.

   The new Japanese APC has a more powerful engine than the previous Type 96 APC. It is powered by a Komatsu 10.8-liter diesel, which develops approximately 500 hp. Engine is located in the middle of the hull. This APC has got a hydropneumatic suspension with height adjustment. The prototype demonstrated impressive agility. This armored vehicle can attain a maximum speed of 100 km/h. Vehicle is fitted with a central tyre inflation system. It improves mobility over various types of terrain. This new APC with not loose mobility when any one of the wheels is damaged or completely destroyed. In some cases it can even keep on moving with two wheels missing.

   This new Japan's APC is not amphibious.

[Rickshaw]

Recently a new 8x8 armored personnel carrier appeared in the North Korea. This armored vehicle is already in service and is produced in quantity. Little information is available on this new armored vehicle. Its official designation is also unknown. Sometimes it is referred as M2010.

   Recently North Korean army acquired a number of BTR-80A APCs. Some sources report that 32 units were acquired. It looks like the new North Korean 8x8 APC is a clone of the BTR-80A with some modifications. Also it is known that North Korean army operates older BTR-60PB 8x8 APCs.

   The North Korean 8x8 APC is fitted with an indigenous turret. The same turret is also used on some other North Korean armored vehicles. It is armed with two 14.5-mm machine guns. It is believed that two heavy machine guns are used not for higher density of fire but in case one fails another will keep on firing. Also there is a coaxial 7.62-mm machine gun. Weapons have high elevation angles and can engage low-flying helicopters. During parades this APC is sometimes additionally fitted with a man-portable air defense missile.

   Vehicle has a welded hull and turret. It is estimated that front arc withstands hits from 12.7-mm rounds, while all-round protection is against 7.62-mm rounds.

   There is a door on either side of the hull. Doors are different than those used on the Russian APC. There are a some firing ports provided for the troops. It seems that first production vehicles had more firing ports and most of them were removed from later production vehicles.

   This armored vehicle has a crew of three, including commander, gunner and driver. It can carry 7 or 8 fully-equipped troops.

   Engine is located at the rear. Vehicle has a central tyre inflation system. The new North Korean armored personnel carrier is fully amphibious. On water it is propelled by a single waterjet.

   Also there is a 6x6 version of this armored personnel carrier. It is also in service with the North Korean army and is being produced in quantity. It has similar layout and is fitted with the same turret. Some sources claim that this 6x6 vehicle is also used for reconnaissance.

[Soruce]

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Patria AMV (Armored Modular Vehicle) was briefly mentioned before.

"The Patria AMV (Armored Modular Vehicle) is an 8×8 multi-role military vehicle produced by the Finnish defence industry company Patria.

The main feature of the AMV is its modular design, which allows the incorporation of different turrets, weapons, sensors, or communications systems on the same carriage. Designs exist for different APC vehicles (armoured personnel carrier) and IFV versions (infantry fighting vehicle), communications versions, ambulances and different fire support versions, armed with large caliber mortar and gun systems. The vehicle has a very good level of mine protection and can withstand explosions of up to 10 kilograms (22 lb) TNT. The AMV has protection levels up to 30 mm APFSDS frontal arc. Another important feature is the very good mobility (combining speed, agility, and crew comfort) in rough terrain, enabled by the sophisticated The Patria AMV (Armored Modular Vehicle) is an 8×8 multi-role military vehicle produced by the Finnish defence industry company Patria.

The main feature of the AMV is its modular design, which allows the incorporation of different turrets, weapons, sensors, or communications systems on the same carriage. Designs exist for different APC vehicles (armoured personnel carrier) and IFV versions (infantry fighting vehicle), communications versions, ambulances and different fire support versions, armed with large caliber mortar and gun systems. The vehicle has a very good level of mine protection and can withstand explosions of up to 10 kilograms (22 lb) TNT. The AMV has protection levels up to 30 mm APFSDS frontal arc. Another important feature is the very good mobility (combining speed, agility, and crew comfort) in rough terrain, enabled by the sophisticated but rugged hydraulic suspension adjusting each wheel individually."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patria_AMV

"Patria AMV 8x8 has been developed to provide optimal modularity of components and to be adaptable for a wide range of versions without changing basic vehicle systems. Patria AMV is available in three different models:

 1.   Basic model provides the platform for following variants: armoured personnel carrier (APC), infantry fighting vehicle (IFV), command vehicle, ambulance, reconnaissance vehicle, anti-tank guided missile vehicle (ATGM), armoured repair and recovery vehicle (ARRV), and finally, the 120 mm Patria Nemo mortar system.
 2.   High Roof Model provides extra space at the rear of the vehicle (34 cm higher than the basic model), which is ideal if the vehicle is used as a command, C4I, ambulance or workshop vehicle.
 3.   Heavy Weapon Platform has been optimised to carry large-calibre weapon systems such as the 120 mm AMOS mortar system or the 105/120 mm cannon (MGS).

All previously mentioned 3 models and all their variants of AMV are available as 40 cm stretched vehicle."
https://www.patria.fi/en/products-and-services/armoured-wheeled-vehicles

[GTX_Admin]

It was proposed for Australians as the Sentinel 2 for their armored reconnaissance and combat vehicle program. Though eventually this armored vehicle was shortlisted from the Australian program.

yeah, it was offered not by the Singaporeans though but rather by Elbit Australia, a company with no prior real history in this arena.  Their bid was quite an example of how not to do something...

[GTX_Admin]

The Patria vehicle also made it to the final round in the Australian Land 400 Ph2 competition but was beat by the Rhienmetall Boxer.

I wish someone did a conversion kit of the Nemo system.  Could use that on multiple builds.

[Twiddle]

Rooikat APC ?

Chuck away the main armament.

Re-orientate the power plant.

Widened hull.

[dy031101]

Lazar 3 from Serbia.  Development of Lazar 1 MRAP.  4th picture shows seating arrangement of each side.

Those side windows......

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Sisu E13TP is a military terrain truck produced by the Finnish heavy vehicle producer Sisu Defence. The vehicle was introduced in 2005 and the first vehicles were delivered in 2007. E13TP is available in layouts 6×6 and 8×8. The stronger variant E15TP is with 10×10 layout.

The primary military applications are hook loader, radar carrier, missile vehicle, recovery vehicle and bridging vehicle. Some civil applications are produced for oil fields and rescue purposes in particular.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisu_E13TP

Wikimedia images:





E15TP with KMW MLC70 Leguan 26 meter bridging system. Sisu image:



https://sisuauto.com/en/defence/

[GTX_Admin]

Hmmm...a kit of that could be interesting to play with.

[dy031101]

Rooikat re-armed with the same SWARM weapon station used on the Jordanian Temsah IFV. 1 x M621 20mm autocannon and 1 x quad Ingwe missile launcher.

[Rickshaw]

New Chinese 8 wheeler under going trials:

[GTX_Admin]

Well, it does have 8 wheels...






No other details other than it's Soviet (well, duh!!!)

[apophenia]

Some details here: https://www.rbth.com/lifestyle/326503-chelyabinsk-8-wheel-aatv

In Chelyabinsk, a Soviet 8-wheel something has been found
Lifestyle Oct 24 2017 Russia Beyond

A user of Russian social network VK has discovered an eight-wheel Amphibious All-Terrain Vehicle (AATV), created in the 1950s by the Design Bureau of the Chelyabinsk tractor hydraulics plant, Russia media reported.

Weighing in at 600kg, the AATV has compact dimensions (with a length of 4530mm, a width of 1900mm and a height of 1490mm), an aluminum chassis and all-wheel drive.

The design makes use of parts from the GAZ-M20 “Pobeda”. The new owner is now trying to clarify further details of the vehicle’s history.

And from here: https://auto.mail.ru/article/66579-v_chelyabinske_nashli_sovetskii_vezdehod_8h8_sdelannyi_iz_pobedy/

In the Chelyabinsk found the Soviet all-terrain vehicle 8x8, made from the "Victory" [“Pobeda”]

One of the users of "VKontakte" has acquired a unique design, created more than half a century ago by the Hydraulics Design Bureau of the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant.

As Ivan Ivanov assumes, the newly-made owner of the Chelyabinsk Krakozyabra, this all-terrain vehicle is designed by Maxim Nikolaevich Melnichenko, the ChTZ designer who was the head of the hydrostatic drive group of the tractor GSK ChTZ. Approximate years of construction of the machine - 1950-1951.

According to the available data (which has yet to be confirmed), the authors worked on an unusual project in an initiative, privately, but the design and creation of the prototype were carried out professionally, by the whole team of the ChTZ hydraulics design bureau.

The eight-wheel car of a futuristic look has rather compact dimensions (length - 4530 mm, width - 1900 mm, height - 1490 mm), articulated design and a riveted aluminum body. Curb weight - about 600 kg, wheel formula - 8x8.

It is curious that the all-wheel drive system is made according to the hydrostatic scheme, when the internal combustion engine rotates the hydraulic pump, and that results in eight (!) Hydraulic motors - one on each wheel. All wheels have a swap system, plus for each pair of thrusters you can pull the track.

The design is widely used units GAZ-M20 "Victory". Actually, it was planned to take the engine from Pobeda, but for unknown reasons, the engine was not installed on the car. Now the new owner is trying to figure out the detailed history of the creation of this all-terrain vehicle.

[Jeffry Fontaine]

Looks like the love-child of a Gama Goat and Corvair 

[GTX_Admin]

To me it looks like a realistic nuclear powered car...unlike some of those really proposed like the Ford Nucleon (see below)

[The Big Gimper]

[ChernayaAkula]

Thought these two looked cool. Based on the Type 16 Maneuver Combat Vehicle, one appears to be an AMOS-style mortar carrier, while the other seems to be a SPAAG looking a lot like the Oerlikon Skyshield/Rheinmetall MANTIS turrets. AFAIK they're both whifs, but they look quite plausible.


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[Buzzbomb]

That flat hull top would fit almost anything.

[GTX_Admin]

Looks good.  I assume those a scatchbuilt.  I wish someone would release a 1/35 conversion kit for the AMOS.

[Gingie]

I think those are 1/48, but yes 1/35 AMOS on a CV90 chassis...
 

[dy031101]

Al-Mared from KADDB of Jordan.

Based on Tatra truck chassis and in this picture armed with Scorpion tank turret re-armed with an ZTM-2 30mm cannon (Ukrainian equivalent of 2A42).

[Old Wombat]

Jordanian superstructure on a Czech chassis with a British turret, mounting a Ukrainian cannon ...

Why not just call it the "الأمم المتحدة" (al'Umam Almutahida = United Nations)?

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Patria AMV (Armored Modular Vehicle) was briefly mentioned before.

"The Patria AMV (Armored Modular Vehicle) is an 8×8 multi-role military vehicle produced by the Finnish defence industry company Patria."
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Patria Nemo 120mm Mortar System, mounted on Patria AMV, Fire On the Move:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO2m2Pu5eOA

[dy031101]

Apparently the CM-32 + surplus GDLS low-profile turret is actually going to be pitched to the ROCA such that AFV Club of all companies is offering to custom-build the model on the side (with camouflage and display case; probably for customers in Taiwan only).