8x8 and more...

[apophenia]

Hypothetical 35mm armed Luchs

Good find :)  I wonder, was that the same Oerlikon-Bührle GDD-BOE turret fitted to the Mowag Shark?

[dy031101]

It would be interesting to see a Luchs with a dedicated ATGM turret.....

Doesn't the Luchs lack the space to carry reserve missiles though?

[Rickshaw]

Hypothetical 35mm armed Luchs

Good find :)  I wonder, was that the same Oerlikon-Bührle GDD-BOE turret fitted to the Mowag Shark?

No idea.  Do you have a picture of the Shark?   I wouldn't surprised as Mowag appears to have mounted multiple different turrets on their vehicles.

[Rickshaw]

Brazilian "Octopus" 8x8 truck prototype which appears to have been abandoned early on.  Featured "computerised" control of the drive to the wheels.

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[GTX_Admin]

Japanese Type 16:



No kits available that I am aware of though definitely cool looking.

[Rickshaw]

There is a Japanese 1/72 model.  Nitto?  Fujimi?  Can't remember which one...

[finsrin]

Type 16 otta get around fine long as mud/snow aint too boggy/deep.

[jcf]

There is a Japanese 1/72 model.  Nitto?  Fujimi?  Can't remember which one...

Can’t be Nitto, they ceased production ~ 1990.

Aoshima has a 1/72 kit of the prototype.
https://hlj.com/product/AOS01017

[Rickshaw]

There is a Japanese 1/72 model.  Nitto?  Fujimi?  Can't remember which one...

Can’t be Nitto, they ceased production ~ 1990.

Aoshima has a 1/72 kit of the prototype.
https://hlj.com/product/AOS01017

I wasn't aware that Nitto had ceased production.   However, that is the one I was thinking of.  Apparently the JSDF aren't happy with this vehicle and are already thinking about replacing it with an electric powered one, based on a 6x6 prototype they're playing with.

[apophenia]

If anyone is interested, Nitto-Kagaku went bankrupt back in 1988. Afterwards, Fujimi re-issued most of Nitto's 1/76 scale vehicles ... but no 8x8s AFAIK. See Fujimi/Nitto 1/76 kit list here: http://henk.fox3000.com/Fujimi.htm

[Rickshaw]

Model of Mitsubishi version of the MCV:

[GTX_Admin]

Boy does that lend itself to half track conversion...

[dy031101]

Re-post from the tank destroyer thread due to the vehicle being an 8x8.  Bismarck, one of the three Rooikat proposals.  42 tons, Olifant turret (and later possibly TTD turret).

[GTX_Admin]

[apophenia]

Great shot! Is that the Cockerill 3030/40? (Looks too big to be an ATK 30mm.)

[GTX_Admin]

Its the 30mm XM813.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZQ454oQhhQ

[dy031101]

It would be interesting to see a Luchs with a dedicated ATGM turret......

Recently I came across this.

I like the idea of a quad TOW or Hellfire launcher (since I don't know if there is actually space within the Luchs for a meaningful missile reload, 'might as well carry as many missiles at ready as possible); the RIwP carries two but is armed with a co-axial machinegun, offering some degree of protection against, say, enemy infantry at close range.

For systems that are available earlier, maybe ZT3 Ingwe triple launcher or UTM-800 HOT turret......

[GTX_Admin]

Maybe also something such as MGM-166 LOSAT, though maybe not this version:



Maybe something more akin to this:

[GTX_Admin]

Speaking of which:

[Old Wombat]

That's one BIG box of badness, that is!

[dy031101]

There is also the Panhard EBR...soon to be released as a new model kit!

Would the 105mm GIAT G1 gun (used by the SK-105 and allegedly AMX-13 105 refurbishment) be within Panhard EBR's handling limit, or would the 90mm GIAT F3/F4 or Cockerill Mk. 8 gun be a better bet?

[dy031101]

Top and Middle: French-designed VBCI "UAE Configuration", with the turret of BMP-3 (contract is instead won by a variant of the Turkish ARMA).

Bottom: The spiritual predecessor (Patria AMV lengthened in the middle [?] to accommodate the BMP-3 turret while maintaining the number of dismounts)

[Rickshaw]

The Terrex 2 is an amphibious armored personnel carrier. It was developed by Singaporean Technologies Kinetics to meet a US Marine Corps requirement. The US Marines were looking for a new 8x8 amphibious armored personnel carrier, which would replace the ageing LAV-25 series of armored vehicles. For this task the Singaporean Technologies Kinetics teamed up with Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) of the United States as an expediter for the US market. The Terrex 2 evolved from the original Terrex, but has a number of improvements and significantly improved amphibious capabilities. It was first publicly revealed in 2015. However the Terrex 2 eventually lost competition to a modified IVECO SuperAV, offered by BAE Systems, which was adopted by the US Marine Corps as the ACV.

   Hull of the Terrex 2 was specially shaped for improved buoyancy and higher speed on water. Requirements of the US Marines are particularly stressed on water speed and reserve buoyancy of the new armored vehicle.

   The Terrex 2 has a double V-shaped hull design for protection against landmines and improvised explosive devices. Similar hull configuration is present on the original Terrex.

   The Terrex 2 can be armed with various weapons. A baseline armored personnel carrier configuration can be fitted with a remotely-controlled weapon station, armed with a 12.7 mm heavy machine gun. It can be also fitted with heavier weapons, such as a two-man turret, armed with a 30 mm cannon.

   The Terrex 2 is operated by a crew of 2, including driver and vehicle commander and can carry 12 dismounts. Troops enter and leave the vehicle via rear ramp with integral doors. Also there are roof hatches for emergency exit.

   This armored vehicle is equipped with an all-round surveillance system for 360° view and navigation system. Driver's compartment has a customizable touch screen interfaces.

   This amphibious armored personnel carrier is powered by a Caterpillar C9.3 turbocharged diesel engine, developing 600 hp. There is also a Euro version, which develops 525 hp. Engine is matted to Allison automatic transmission with 6-forward and 1-reverse speeds. Suspension of the Terrex 2 has adjustable ride height. Vehicle has advanced driveline with all-wheel steering capability. It results in a superior maneuverability and tight turning radius. This armored vehicle is fitted with a central tyre inflation system, which improves mobility over difficult terrain. Also it is equipped with run-flat tyres. The Terrex 2 can still travel with one or in some cases even more wheels completely destroyer.

   On water this armored personnel carrier is propelled by two waterjets. Maximum amphibious speed on water is 11 km/h. Vehicle can operate up to Sea State 4 conditions.

   The Terrex 2 can be transported to operations theater by amphibious assault ships or airlifted by military cargo aircraft.

   Proposed variants of the Terrex 2 include a baseline armored personnel carrier, command vehicle, engineer vehicle, and armored ambulance.

Variants

   Terrex 3 is a non-amphibious, but better protected and more heavily armed version. It was specially tailored to meet Australian requirement for a versatile combat reconnaissance vehicle. The Terrex 3 was proposed for Australians as the Sentinel II. Though eventually this armored vehicle was shortlisted from this program.

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[Rickshaw]

The Terrex 3 is a new armored personnel carrier, developed by Singapore Technologies Kinetics. It is a further development of the previous Terrex 2. This armored vehicle was specially tailored to meet an Australian requirement for an armored reconnaissance and combat vehicle. The new Terrex 3 lost amphibious capability of the Terrex 2, but carries more armor and has heavier armament. Prototypes of the Terrex 3 were built in Ireland by Timoney, which is now a part of Singapore Technologies Kinetics. The Terrex 3 was first publicly revealed in 2016. It was proposed for Australians as the Sentinel 2 for their armored reconnaissance and combat vehicle program. Though eventually this armored vehicle was shortlisted from the Australian program.

   This new armored vehicle weights 35 t. In terms of firepower and protection the Terrex 3 can be even considered as a wheeled infantry fighting vehicle. Vehicle has a double V-shaped hull design for protection against landmines and improvised explosive devices. Similar hull configuration is present on the original Terrex and the previous Terrex 2.

   This armored vehicle is fitted with an Israeli Elbit two-man turret. It is armed with a 30 mm cannon. There is a provision for a coaxial 7.62 mm machine gun. Depending on customer requirement the Terrex 3 can be equipped with anti-tank guided missiles. This armored vehicle can also carry lighter armament, such as a remotely-controlled weapon station, armed with a 12.7 mm machine gun.

   The Terrex 3 is operated by a crew of 3, including commander, gunner and driver. Vehicle can carry 10 fully-equipped dismounts. Troops enter and leave the vehicle via rear power-operated ramp with integral doors. Also there are roof hatches for emergency exit.

   This armored vehicle is equipped with an all-round surveillance system for 360° view and navigation system. Driver's compartment has a customizable touch screen interfaces.

   It looks like the Terrex 3 is powered by a Caterpillar C9.3 turbocharged diesel engine, developing 600 hp. Engine is matted to Allison automatic transmission with 6-forward and 1-reverse speeds. Suspension of the Terrex 3 has adjustable ride height. This armored vehicle is fitted with a central tyre inflation system, which improves mobility over difficult terrain. Also it is equipped with run-flat tyres. The Terrex 3 can still travel with one or in some cases even more wheels completely destroyed.

   The Terrex 3 lost its amphibious capability due to increased weight. The new vehicle is nearly 10 t heavier than the previous Terrex 2.

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[Rickshaw]

The LAV 700 armored personnel carrier was developed by General Dynamics Land Systems, of Canada. It is an improved and modified version of the LAV 6.0. It has a larger hull, is better protected and can carry more payload. Also the LAV 700 is fitted with a more powerful engine. Saudi Arabia ordered 900 of these new armored vehicles in various versions. Production of the LAV 700 commenced in 2017.

   The LAV 700 has a different hull that its predecessor. This armored vehicle weights 21 000 kg and has a payload capacity of 11 000 kg. So the LAV 700 has growth potential. It can be fitted with various turrets and add-on armor kit for a higher level of protection.

   This vehicle can be fitted with ceramic add-on armor kit for a higher level of protection. So ballistic protection is scalable, depending on the threat. It is estimated that maximum level of all-round protection is against 14.5 mm armor-piercing rounds. It is estimated that front arc withstand hits from 30 mm cannons. Cage armor can be installed for protection against anti-tank rockets. Vehicle is fitted with automatic fire suppression and NBC detection systems. Though NBC protection system with overpressure is optional. Also there is a laser warning system and shot detection system. This vehicle can be even fitted with active protection system. The LAV 700 has a double V-shaped hull for protection against land mines and improvised explosive devices. Furthermore this vehicle has adjustable ground clearance, which can be raised to the highest level when the vehicle is crossing areas where mine threat is high. Crew and dismounts are seated on energy absorbing seats.

   Currently the LAV 700 is one of the most protected armored personnel carrier in the world. Once fitted with a powerful armament, it can be even considered as a wheeled infantry fighting vehicle.

   The LAV 700 can be fitted with various turrets or remotely-controlled weapon stations. A baseline version is fitted with a 12.7 mm machine gun. This vehicle is proposed with 30- or 40 mm turrets.

   This armored personnel carrier accommodates around 6-8 dismounts. Troops enter and leave the vehicle via a rear power-operated ramp. Also there are roof hatches for firing or emergency exit.

   The LAV 700 is powered by a Caterpillar C13 turbocharged diesel engine, developing 711 hp. It is a huge improvement over 450 hp engine of the LAV 6.0. The engine is mated to an Allison automatic transmission with 7-forward and 1-reverse speeds. This vehicle retains its driveline and independent hydropneumatic suspension system of the LAV 6.0. Ground clearance of the vehicle can be selected from the driver's position. On hard surface roads it uses 8x4 configuration for maximum range, while 8x8 configuration is engaged over difficult terrain and off-road. Two front axles are steerable. The LAV 700 is fitted with a central tyre inflation system and run flat tyres.

   This armored vehicle can be airlifted by a C17 Globemaster III or Airbus A400M military transports.

 Variants

   LAV FSV is a so called Fire Support Vehicle version. It is armed with a turret-mounted 30 mm cannon. By its function the LAV FSV is closer to a wheeled infantry fighting vehicle.

   Command post vehicle, fitted with a raised roofline over the rear compartment. This version is fitted with a remotely controlled weapon station, armed with a 12.7 mm heavy machine gun. There is also another roof-mounted and shielded 7.62 mm machine gun. A demonstrator was fitted with satellite communication equipment.

   Ambulance.

   Mortar system with a 120 mm turreted mortar. This vehicle is intended for indirect fire support.

   Fire support vehicle with 90- or 105 mm turret. This vehicle is intended for direct fire support.

   Anti-tank missile carrier.

   Reconnaissance and surveillance vehicle.

   Repair and recovery vehicle.

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