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Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale - FINISHED
« on: May 21, 2020, 01:48:54 PM »
FD scale is 22.093 pixels = 1 metre.  However, since the book where I got the drawing doesn't have dimensions for the design, I'm forced to approximate based on the size of the J46 engine.  The scaled drawing turns out to be a deal bigger than the real-life Cutlass.



So it begins:



I experimentally fitted a nose to the style of the F7U-3.  Not what the finished product will go with, this much I know now.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2020, 03:44:31 PM by dy031101 »
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Re: Trimotor Cutlass in FD Scale
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2020, 02:00:33 PM »


I shall proceed with the wings later today.

The ultimate plan is to do side view and then top view.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2020, 03:24:32 PM by dy031101 »
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Re: Trimotor Cutlass in FD Scale
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2020, 02:05:31 PM »
Much better:

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Re: Trimotor Cutlass in FD Scale
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2020, 03:08:23 AM »
 :smiley:
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Re: Trimotor Cutlass in FD Scale
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2020, 01:07:01 PM »


I want to implement a simple inflight refueling probe la Fury and Super Sabre...... but as shown, it ended up being exceptionally long...... which one of the above two would be okay, how can I make the scheme more workable, or is there something else I should try?

Comments and suggests will be greatly appreciated.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2020, 02:01:29 PM by dy031101 »
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Re: Trimotor Cutlass in FD Scale
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2020, 05:29:51 PM »
Nice profile and concept, you could possibly  put the fuel probe  to one side of the cockpit much like the Buccaneer

I was originally going to suggest over the cockpit HP Victor style but that would foul the ejector seat somewhat  :o

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Re: Trimotor Cutlass in FD Scale
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2020, 12:01:42 PM »
:smiley:
Nice profile and concept, you could possibly  put the fuel probe  to one side of the cockpit much like the Buccaneer

Thanks.  :))

Robomog, your suggestion reminded me that the Cutlass has fuel tanks a short distance behind the cockpit...... and the line drawing that I used as a basis of this project (and posted at the OP) suggests a similar arrangement.



And this way I get to retain the use of inner wing pylons.

I decide to add representation of folding wings.  Even if not as a carrier aircraft, I imagine it as a "large light fighter".
« Last Edit: June 19, 2020, 01:59:09 PM by dy031101 »
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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2020, 03:22:39 PM »
I decided to add another aircraft to this project.

I have always been fascinated with the Lippisch P.13b project, and a couple of days ago it dawned on me that I do want to stick a "Cutlass cockpit" of sort onto it because 1.) radar and 2.) its line drawing suggests a high angle-of-attack on takeoff and/or landing, and the cockpit design of the F7U-3 seems to give the best forward visibility.  So I scaled up the Lippisch P.13b drawing to match the Cutlass and started from there.

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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2020, 04:17:12 PM »
So many Cutlass based/like concepts.  Highly interesting.  :smiley:

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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2020, 03:16:05 AM »
The development so far:



(The wheels are just there for demonstration purposes.)

I figured that paved runways, something I'm not sure if skids would be good for, would be the norm by the 1950s.  Also I desire more ground clearance for missile carriage.  The rear end of each main landing gear housings contains a rocket motor for takeoff and acceleration towards the main ramjet's operating speed whereas the front end transitions from a gondola mounting a 30 x 113 mm revolver cannon.

I shortened the main landing gears, however, so that I won't have to extend the nose wheel any further to preserve angle of attack on takeoff and/or landing.  Is there anything I should pay attention to when doing so?  Thanks in advance.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2020, 01:24:25 PM by dy031101 »
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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2020, 03:45:54 AM »
 :smiley:
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2020, 02:22:52 PM »
Everything was simple while still just inside of my head  :-X

« Last Edit: June 05, 2020, 01:42:57 PM by dy031101 »
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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2020, 03:11:23 AM »
Everything was simple while still just inside of my head  :-X

It always is... ;D
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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2020, 05:43:23 AM »
Everything was simple while still just inside of my head  :-X

It always is... ;D

 Profound statement, can soooo relate to it.

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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2020, 04:00:09 PM »


"Feature Complete" with Shafrir-2 and AIM-7E2.  Another "large light fighter" and therefore given folding wings.



This missile combination represents their early service weapons.

Now on to giving them camos...... again, everything was simple while still just inside of my head :-X
« Last Edit: July 21, 2020, 01:53:00 PM by dy031101 »
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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2020, 06:00:29 PM »
Doesn't need camo both look good in silver/gray  :smiley: :smiley:

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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2020, 01:33:02 PM »
Al~righty~~ (for the Trimotor Cutlass) in upgraded form!

« Last Edit: August 09, 2020, 12:13:18 PM by dy031101 »
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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2020, 03:19:17 PM »
Nice....  :smiley:

Sparks idea to build 1/72 large Cutlass from Revell 1/60 kit.

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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2020, 05:30:05 PM »
Ok call me liar,  looks great with camo  :smiley: 8) ;D ;D

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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2020, 02:36:22 AM »
 :smiley:
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2020, 09:08:20 AM »
Ramjet Cutlass upgraded and getting camouflages to match their mission, with indications of their sizes:



I revisited the American Secret Project book for other Cutlass-derived ideas.  The good news is that I did find more inspirations......

...... the bad news is I discovered only now that, for the trimotor Cutlass, I'd been working off the proportions of the J34 turbojets rather than the much-longer J46 that I foolishly assumed.  Long story short, I have to lengthen the fuselage.



Now I need to reapply that camo...... *banging head*
« Last Edit: August 10, 2020, 12:10:48 AM by dy031101 »
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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2020, 02:42:31 AM »
What weapons foo you have on those?
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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2020, 05:32:25 AM »
What weapons foo you have on those?

Both aircraft have 2 x 30mm revolver cannons (think DEFA), as well as 2 x Shafrir-2 and 2 x AIM-7E2 in early service, 2 x Python 5 and 2 x iDerby in late service.

MICA-EM and -IR are actually my preferred "current year" missile combo behind that of the Meteor/AMRAAM-C and ASRAAM/AIM-9X, but I'm under the impression of them being an expensive weapon without somebody else already establishing an economy of scale beforehand......
« Last Edit: August 10, 2020, 02:45:05 PM by dy031101 »
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Re: Trimotor and Coal Ramjet Cutlasses in FD Scale - FINISHED FOR REAL!
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2020, 03:42:32 PM »
Finally the adjustment is complete.

« Last Edit: August 17, 2020, 10:30:15 AM by dy031101 »
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