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Unicorns & Holy Grails
« on: January 15, 2020, 04:43:56 AM »
Hi folks,

A new thread for members to list their 'unicorn' or 'holy grail' kits so that others might let them know if they come across one.

For those not aware, a unicorn or holy grail kit is often one that reportedly has been produced but is extremely rare and may never have even been seen.

An example for me might be the supposed 1/48 AA-model Caproni Ca.313 model kit -  the only reference I have is a brief Scalemates mention.
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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2020, 04:51:50 AM »
What's the difference between the Ca.313 and Ca.314 Greg ?

BTW, the AA Model Ca.313 is a basic vacuform, AA Model production only lasted 4 years, 1981 to 1985.

A company called E.P. Original Models did a resin 1/48 Ca.314, but this would be even more rarer, production started in '95 and ended '96
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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2020, 05:04:35 AM »
What's the difference between the Ca.313 and Ca.314 Greg ?

BTW, the AA Model Ca.313 is a basic vacuform, AA Model production only lasted 4 years, 1981 to 1985.

A company called E.P. Original Models did a resin 1/48 Ca.314, but this would be even more rarer, production started in '95 and ended '96

From what I understand the Ca.314 was a development of the CA.313, itself a development of the Ca.310.  The main differences (apart from use - the Ca,314 being the more dedicated attack version) possibly slightly different engines (though hardly noticeable visually) and heavier MGs in wing roots plus the Ca.314 was heavier.  Are you aware of a 1/48 Ca.314 kit?
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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2020, 05:05:35 AM »
What's the difference between the Ca.313 and Ca.314 Greg ?

BTW, the AA Model Ca.313 is a basic vacuform, AA Model production only lasted 4 years, 1981 to 1985.

A company called E.P. Original Models did a resin 1/48 Ca.314, but this would be even more rarer, production started in '95 and ended '96

From what I understand the Ca.314 was a development of the CA.313, itself a development of the Ca.310.  The main differences (apart from use - the Ca,314 being the more dedicated attack version) possibly slightly different engines (though hardly noticeable visually) and heavier MGs in wing roots plus the Ca.314 was heavier.  Are you aware of a 1/48 Ca.314 kit?

I was looking in the PAK-20 book Greg --

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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2020, 05:06:14 AM »
BTW, the AA Model Ca.313 is a basic vacuform, AA Model production only lasted 4 years, 1981 to 1985.

I can live with that if its the only option.

A company called E.P. Original Models did a resin 1/48 Ca.314, but this would be even more rarer, production started in '95 and ended '96

Hmmm...resin is even nicer.
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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2020, 05:13:32 AM »
The early Ca.313s could also be distinguished by their noses. The early model Ca.313 - eg: the Swedish Ca.313S (Svezia, aka Ca 313RPB/S to Caproni), Ca.313F (Francia) for the AdA, and  Ca.313 RPB.1 for the Regia Aeronautica had fully-glazed noses. By contrast, the later Ca.313 RPB.2 for the Regia Aeronautica had the short, stepped nose of the Ca.314.

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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2020, 05:28:36 AM »
Some other unicorns for me:

1/35 Slovenian A.E.F. Designs M-55:



The following 1/48 Racoon Resins ones:


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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2020, 06:13:04 AM »
Blap! Models 1/72 FDL-7.


Fantastic Plastic FDL-5.


I have the FDL-6.
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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2020, 01:42:44 AM »
1/35 Slovenian A.E.F. Designs M-55:

You want that AEF kit because you are openly declaring yourself a masochist, then?  ;D

Or is the unicorn part of this that it needs to actually be buildable.

'Cause that ain't never gonna happen...

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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2020, 01:49:52 AM »
I want it since it is the only M-55 kit/conversion available.
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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2020, 02:25:50 AM »
A couple more:


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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2020, 02:41:15 AM »
Another:

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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2020, 03:44:11 AM »
I have also heard rumour of a Kiwi Resin 1/48 PAC CT/4 Airtrainer resin kit...
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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2020, 06:55:11 AM »
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What even is that?  :icon_surprised: Looks like a Japanese try at a Beaufighter. Nice!  :smiley:
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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2020, 07:39:12 AM »
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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2020, 02:23:53 AM »
Yes have seen that site before.  This is another from Raccoon Resin that I want:



I already have a number of their other products.
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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2020, 07:00:27 AM »
What even is that?  :icon_surprised: Looks like a Japanese try at a Beaufighter. Nice!  :smiley:

Nakajima J5N: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakajima_J5N

Thanks for the heads-up!  :smiley: Didn't know about this one.
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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2020, 11:25:12 AM »
Note quite at Unicorn/Holy Grail level of desire, but I would love to get the Raccoon Models kits of the Ki-201, S1A1, and R2Y1 if I ever find such.

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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2020, 02:22:56 AM »
These would be nice too:


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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2020, 11:59:18 AM »
A new Unicorn for me:

1/35 Terre Modèles AMX-30 Pluton conversion.  My only proof of its existence is the following:



Supposedly this is the master:









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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2020, 12:03:16 PM »
Fantastic Plastic FDL-5.


Have you tried contacting Allen Ury directly?
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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2020, 12:06:00 PM »
One I would like from Fantastic Plastic - have tried to contact Allen but no luck with any in stock:





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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2020, 12:18:51 PM »
A few others I would like - same deal frustratingly:











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Re: Unicorns & Holy Grails
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2020, 04:55:09 AM »
A holy grail of sorts, although it's a new release :

Some months ago I placed a pre-order for an Atlantis reboxing of the Aurora 1/72 AH-56A Cheyenne Helicopter. An email just now informs me it is now being shipped to me.