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Offline The Big Gimper

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RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« on: November 15, 2018, 02:37:46 AM »
RCAF CT-103A Puffin. Radar trainer for the CF-110A Phantom II.  1/72 Airfix Domine T.1 with Monogram F-4D nose and 2 additional engines from another Dominie. Known as "Jimmy" by the crews. A nod to Jimmy Durante.


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CT-103A-Puffin-02
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Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2018, 03:38:45 AM »
Most intriguing start, all the more so because there was an offer of F-4D's made to the Canadians.  It would be an interesting aircraft to see in Canadian markings and color schemes; likely followed on by the F-4E for tactical operations.

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Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2018, 05:07:22 AM »
I like this one very much, Mr Gimper!

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Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2018, 06:08:52 AM »
I can see why it's called a puffin!

A rather striking resemblance, I must say.
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Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2018, 07:04:07 AM »
Excellent concept! Love the quad Viper:smiley:

Now you've got me imagining a CT-103B Pinocchio-replacement with CF-104 NASARR nose. And, of course, the ultimate Puffin - the Canadair-built 'CE-103C' with twin General Electric J85s (as per the CT-114 Tutor). The latter would have 1,000 lbf less thrust per engine made up for by reduced empty weight.
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Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2018, 07:34:48 AM »
Great ideas. I do have an engine-less Dominie which is looking for replacements.
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Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2018, 07:37:59 AM »
Found this on Facebook Unofficial Airfix Modellers Forum Page. My 4 engine idea is not a new one.

 "As you can see its a MR search a/c. My RN FAA Navigator trainer is in the background."

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Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2018, 11:59:57 AM »
I love the Phantom nose, it looks like a great fit! Beautiful work so far.
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Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2018, 12:34:25 PM »
Might make a good patrol aircraft

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Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2018, 03:48:02 AM »
Outstanding idea! :smiley:
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Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2018, 01:30:10 PM »
Excellent concept! Love the quad Viper:smiley:

Now you've got me imagining a CT-103B Pinocchio-replacement with CF-104 NASARR nose. And, of course, the ultimate Puffin - the Canadair-built 'CE-103C' with twin General Electric J85s (as per the CT-114 Tutor). The latter would have 1,000 lbf less thrust per engine made up for by reduced empty weight.
Clone the nacelles off a kit of any "20 Series" Learjet; you might even get away with using the turbofans from a "30 Series" Learjet as an engine upgrade with more thrust and better fuel economy than the J85.

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Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2018, 10:55:21 PM »
Excellent concept! Love the quad Viper:smiley:

Now you've got me imagining a CT-103B Pinocchio-replacement with CF-104 NASARR nose. And, of course, the ultimate Puffin - the Canadair-built 'CE-103C' with twin General Electric J85s (as per the CT-114 Tutor). The latter would have 1,000 lbf less thrust per engine made up for by reduced empty weight.
Clone the nacelles off a kit of any "20 Series" Learjet; you might even get away with using the turbofans from a "30 Series" Learjet as an engine upgrade with more thrust and better fuel economy than the J85.

Having seen a lot of different business jets at YYC which have honking big engines mounted, how about the engines off an A-10

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Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2018, 11:00:00 PM »
Excellent concept! Love the quad Viper:smiley:

Now you've got me imagining a CT-103B Pinocchio-replacement with CF-104 NASARR nose. And, of course, the ultimate Puffin - the Canadair-built 'CE-103C' with twin General Electric J85s (as per the CT-114 Tutor). The latter would have 1,000 lbf less thrust per engine made up for by reduced empty weight.
Clone the nacelles off a kit of any "20 Series" Learjet; you might even get away with using the turbofans from a "30 Series" Learjet as an engine upgrade with more thrust and better fuel economy than the J85.

Having seen a lot of different business jets at YYC which have honking big engines mounted, how about the engines off an A-10

Maybe.  ;)

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Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2018, 02:55:27 AM »
Tempted to do something similar with a 1/48 T-39 Sabreliner.
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Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2018, 07:33:11 AM »
Clone the nacelles off a kit of any "20 Series" Learjet; you might even get away with using the turbofans from a "30 Series" Learjet as an engine upgrade with more thrust and better fuel economy than the J85.

Oh, that's clever! I was going for RCAF/CAF commonality with the J88/CJ610. You lose that a bit with the 30 Series' TFE731 upgrade. (The CAF CC-117s had CF700/TF37s ... but Canada probably wouldn't have bought those Falcons if they already had Dominies in service.)
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Re: RCAF CT-103A Puffin
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2018, 07:47:53 AM »
Clone the nacelles off a kit of any "20 Series" Learjet; you might even get away with using the turbofans from a "30 Series" Learjet as an engine upgrade with more thrust and better fuel economy than the J85.

Oh, that's clever! I was going for RCAF/CAF commonality with the J88/CJ610. You lose that a bit with the 30 Series' TFE731 upgrade. (The CAF CC-117s had CF700/TF37s ... but Canada probably wouldn't have bought those Falcons if they already had Dominies in service.)

Ah, you have uncovered my secret agenda. Canadair sells CL-215s to the UK to put out peat bog fires and in return have to buy Domine's. 
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