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CAF CF-104E
« on: July 26, 2018, 02:47:46 AM »
Future project. CF-104A with F-16D wings. Also upgrade to either a General Electric F110-GE-129 or Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-220/220E replacing the Orenda J79-OEL-7.


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Re: CAF CF-104E
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2018, 04:09:15 AM »
Niiiiice!  8)

No intakes fitted so far. Hmmmmm. F-15-ish ones?
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Re: CAF CF-104E
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2018, 04:16:09 AM »
Thanks. Wings are about 25% larger than RW wings. Could be, still investigating.
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Re: CAF CF-104E
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2018, 06:45:16 AM »
Very nice!!  The engine change is going to require a re-contouring of the aft end as either of the new engines is roughly 10 inches greater in diameter than the J79 and that's going to need structure external to that envelope.  You might look at how and where you can splice in a trimmed portion of an F016 aft end.

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Re: CAF CF-104E
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2018, 07:01:21 AM »
Very nice!!  The engine change is going to require a re-contouring of the aft end as either of the new engines is roughly 10 inches greater in diameter than the J79 and that's going to need structure external to that envelope.  You might look at how and where you can splice in a trimmed portion of an F016 aft end.

Thanks Evan. You zeroed in the problem and the possible solutions. I don't have and scrap F-104 to test my approach so I need to build it mentally first.
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Re: CAF CF-104E
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2018, 12:17:43 AM »
Carl,

What Starfighter is moulded in red plastic?

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John

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Re: CAF CF-104E
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2018, 07:04:16 AM »
I'm liking... :smiley:
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Re: CAF CF-104E
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2018, 03:19:21 PM »
Carl,

What Starfighter is moulded in red plastic?

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John

The Esci CF-104 "Arrow/Toothbrush" scheme, and possibly Darryle Greenameyer's civvie bird too.

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Re: CAF CF-104E
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2018, 07:38:27 PM »
Carl,

What Starfighter is moulded in red plastic?

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The Esci CF-104 "Arrow/Toothbrush" scheme, and possibly Darryle Greenameyer's civvie bird too.

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Thanks Al.  It's the 421 SQN Toothbrush. 
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Re: CAF CF-104E
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2018, 11:48:13 PM »
Carl,

What Starfighter is moulded in red plastic?

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Thanks Al.  It's the 421 SQN Toothbrush.

ESCI!

So you got that one at Hobby Centre?

I had seen it months ago, and was in the market for a Stargighter, so I went down this week and looked for it for about 15 minutes. Luckily I found the Heller kit, comes with a 2 seater, for a song (sort of.)

We are the only 2 guys in Ottawa hunting down 1/72nd CF-104s.

Mind you, I don't think I'd have been keen on the red plastic ... hard to paint over with a brush.

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John
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Re: CAF CF-104E
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2018, 12:45:38 AM »
This will look great! I would keep the T tail just the way it is. What other ac use an F 100 size engine that might be easier to graft on than an F -16?

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Re: CAF CF-104E
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2018, 10:17:42 AM »
Carl,

What Starfighter is moulded in red plastic?

all best
John




Thanks Al.  It's the 421 SQN Toothbrush.

ESCI!

So you got that one at Hobby Centre?

I had seen it months ago, and was in the market for a Stargighter, so I went down this week and looked for it for about 15 minutes. Luckily I found the Heller kit, comes with a 2 seater, for a song (sort of.)

We are the only 2 guys in Ottawa hunting down 1/72nd CF-104s.

Mind you, I don't think I'd have been keen on the red plastic ... hard to paint over with a brush.

all best
John

Busted! It was me John and my sticky fingers. I did not know it was red.  With one coat of grey primer and 2 coats of Ghost Grey or similar colour, it should be okay.
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Re: CAF CF-104E
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2018, 11:56:00 AM »
This will look great! I would keep the T tail just the way it is. What other ac use an F 100 size engine that might be easier to graft on than an F -16?

Oh, you have done this already?  ;D Yeah, changing out the exhaust is going to be tricky. Will look for other options.
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Re: CAF CF-104E
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2018, 01:52:25 PM »
One option for changing out the exhaust would be an engine nacelle, specifically the rear half thereof, from a 1/48 B-58.  I still think that, despite the effort and trimming required, using the back end of an F-16 would be the easiest way.  I suppose that if ease was more important that cost, you could use the back end of a 1/48 T-50 or F-20.