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F-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration
« on: February 06, 2012, 06:04:34 PM »
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A thread for your F/A-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration.

To start with, here are some concepts that were looked at before the Super Hornet was finalised:





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Re: F-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2012, 12:29:02 PM »
Some thoughts:  if the YF-17 had won the LWF contest would we have seen essentially what became the F/A-18 Cobra enter USAF service?  Would we then ultimately see these entering service with multiple users around the world?  Would the Japanese F-2 be essentially the Super Hornet Cobra?

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Re: F-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2012, 12:37:52 PM »
Well, the production F-17 would have looked similar to the F-18, but with a spine similar to that of the YF-17 (you can see it in the family tree drawing that appears in a number of F-18 books).  What would've been equally interesting would be the F-18L outcompeting the F-16 (in the "Sale of the Century" and elsewhere) and an equivalent Super Hornet version of it appearing.

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Re: F-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2012, 12:58:10 PM »
One would have thought with the land-based nations buying the type (ie: Canada, Australia, Spain, et al) that the F-18L would have had merit as a production line rather than the baseline A and later C.  I'm sure the type would have conferred advantages over its naval sibling.

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Re: F-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2012, 01:17:04 PM »
Maybe the Cobra would have been a single-engine jet powered by F100 turbofan?   ???
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Re: F-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2012, 11:31:50 AM »
F/A-18XL! A Super Hornet-version of this would be the F/A-18XXL.

The top view is a modified version of something Greg did, with the fins moved further out, into the wing.



Maybe the Cobra would have been a single-engine jet powered by F100 turbofan?   ???


With a single F-16-sytle intake, the LERXes and the (then) more pronounced humpback completing the image of a Cobra!  :)
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Re: F-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2012, 12:26:15 PM »
With a single F-16-sytle intake, the LERXes and the (then) more pronounced humpback completing the image of a Cobra!  :)

Well personally I was thinking straightforward of developing the YF-17 from the P-610 because I thought the lateral intakes are too iconic of the F-17 and F/A-18 to easily replace......  ;D
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Re: F-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2012, 04:37:20 PM »
F/A-18XL! A Super Hornet-version of this would be the F/A-18XXL.

The top view is a modified version of something Greg did, with the fins moved further out, into the wing.





That really needs to be built some day...
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Re: F-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2012, 11:30:22 AM »
Maybe the Cobra would have been a single-engine jet powered by F100 turbofan?   ???
Actually, for the LWF competition, there was a version of the design powered by a single F100, but the twin YJ101 version was preferred by the USAF.  I suspect the Northrop data in the Western Museum of Flight would have info, but I'm not in a position to check.  Anyone here in the LA area?

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Re: F-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2012, 05:57:29 AM »
Some interesting info on the F-18L posted by BillRo over on Secret Projects.  I really find the Sparrows on the wingtips interesting as I don't recall ever seeing such a configuration on a Hornet (of any variation) before:


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Re: F-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2012, 07:23:57 AM »
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Re: F-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2012, 02:10:18 AM »
Um...... Sparrows on the wingtips......
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Re: F-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2012, 04:14:21 AM »
Interesting (and inspiring hopefully) photo posted by Thrax over on Secret Projects of a YF-17 in Greek markings.  It was apparently painted like that during the selection of HAF s 3rd gen fighter in mid 80's.

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Re: F-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2012, 05:09:43 PM »
Saw Super Hornet perform at airshow today.  With high humidity we saw the clouds on wings during high speed pass and turn.
High angle low speed pass also impressive.

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Re: F-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2012, 10:51:42 AM »
Just a thought for a subtle whif, either a F/A-18L or a full-up production F-17 (main difference would be in the spine) in USN Agressor squadron markings.  Particularly with the F/A-18L, I wonder how long it'd take folk to notice?