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Bristol Bergen I
« on: February 20, 2017, 05:59:30 AM »
This is my second Floaty GB project, and much more complex than the Pelican, so it may take till the end of the GB. 

In 1936, government officials in Norway were beginning to become concerned over rising tensions within Europe, and set in place an armament build-up scheme which included new aircraft for both the Army and Navy.  Naval air leaders were well aware that a new torpedo bomber and patrol aircraft was needed to replace the Douglas DT-2 and Hover MF-11 biplanes that then constituted the striking power of the Naval Air Arm.  Having studied several designs, and weighing capability, cost, and availability, they eventually contracted with Bristols to purchase a manufacturing license for a naval floatplane variant of the then-new Blenheim bomber.  The new development was renamed the Bristol Bergen and included twin floats and other naval equipment, and the ability to carry one Mk XI aerial torpedo, or 1200 pounds of bombs. 

Bergen1 by cacree, on Flickr

Bergen2 by cacree, on Flickr

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Re: Bristol Bergen I
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2017, 07:12:36 AM »
some inspiration for you, I started one some time ago before I had a house move, it's still packed away somewhere

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Re: Bristol Bergen I
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2017, 07:26:55 AM »
thanks Kitnut.  I had all these photos, but the drawing will be very helpful.  Mine is, of course, based on a Mk I, and the floats are not Edo's, but I do want to emulate the strut layout from the Bolingbroke floatplane. 

FYI, my floats are from a Ju 52/3m See, but will portray Norwegian-designed original floats

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Re: Bristol Bergen I
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2017, 07:52:39 AM »
here's the other part of the drawing for you, I got these from John Adams of Aeroclub

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Re: Bristol Bergen I
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2017, 07:54:35 AM »
Great concept. Watching with interest  :)
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Re: Bristol Bergen I
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2017, 09:31:12 AM »
Making some slow progress here.  The closing up of the main undercarriage openings is complete (at least until primer shows me otherwise)...
Bergen3 by cacree, on Flickr

I'm having serious difficulty with the nose glazing.  Having read reviews and seen completed builds with beautiful noses, I was VERY disappointed to find one of the nose transparencies badly warped...
Bergen warp by cacree, on Flickr
Since this photo was taken I have soaked the offending part in boiling water and bent it into a shape that will fit the port fuselage portion, but when I try to put the two sub-assemblies together, the fit is terrible.  I'm still working out how to fix it.  Any suggestions would be welcome...

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Re: Bristol Bergen I
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2017, 11:05:36 AM »
Contact Airfix maybe ---  ???

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Re: Bristol Bergen I
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2017, 04:06:18 PM »
Well, I snapped it!

I have sent an e-mail to Hornby USA, but there is a big notice on their website: "If your enquiry is regarding parts and spares please note we do not currently hold stock of any Airfix spare parts."  So, I'm not especially hopeful.  In the meantime, I have ordered a new Blenheim I, and if I get a spare part, I'll use it to replace the one I raid from the new kit.   If not, I'll figure out a more radical WHIF for the new kit that involves a new nose (trimotor Blenheim, maybe?).




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Re: Bristol Bergen I
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2017, 02:47:17 AM »
Got any friends with vacuforms? They could make you one lickety split.

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Re: Bristol Bergen I
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2017, 02:48:35 AM »
You could also change the concept to a solid nose from glazed. Put several 20mm canon in there and go with a pilot released torpedo. Not unlike an avenger or Devastator.

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Re: Bristol Bergen I
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2017, 02:57:48 AM »
That would work if it was based on a Mk IV nose, but this is a Mk. I, so the nose is the pilot's windscreen.  I do have a new kit on the way, though, so, problem solved, at least until I start sussing out what to do with the new kit with a bad nose!  I have a sneaky little idea rattling around in my head for that, related to the upcoming retro-futuristic build (hint - laser-equipped Blenheim, anyone?). 

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Re: Bristol Bergen I
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2017, 05:51:17 AM »
Well, I snapped it! ... I'll figure out a more radical WHIF for the new kit that involves a new nose (trimotor Blenheim, maybe?).

Ouch  :o  Does anyone know if the Falcon vacuform canopy for the old Frog Mk.I (Clear-Vax set 8 ) would fit the new Airfix kit?

I do like your trimotor Blenheim concept, though  ;)
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Re: Bristol Bergen I
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2017, 07:12:56 AM »
ok one of the Falcon canopy sets has a Mk.1 canopy. I'm fairly sure they have it seperate too,
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Re: Bristol Bergen I
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2017, 07:34:30 AM »
thanks, Kitnut!  I'll check into that.  Even if I had to modify the kit significantly, I am willing to do that for a future build, so well worth the try. 

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Re: Bristol Bergen I
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2017, 08:09:35 AM »
Falcon set #8, RAF bombers part #1