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Offline apophenia

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #150 on: February 27, 2012, 10:28:29 AM »
Thanks guys. Here's the next in that series of Ost Afrika fighters:

BTW, those '109s borrowed heavily from Helmut Schmidt's wonderful 'flying ART' profiles. If you haven't heard of this guy yet, check out his blog now! Amazing stuff ...

Schmidt's posts are mostly historical '109s but a few other types too. And one or two whifs tucked in there as well (love his contra-rotating prop '109 racer!): http://flyingart.twoday.net/
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #151 on: February 28, 2012, 05:07:11 AM »
A few more Ost Afrika fighters. These are Spanish imports.

The first HA.1112, 'Zebu', has an arid scheme for the Ost Afrikan push into Somalia.

The second HA.1112 wears Technische Offizier markings on the standard OstAfrika Luftwaffe savanna scheme. The 'leopard africa' motif is a personal mark. This beat-up fighter, based in occupied Northern Rhodesia, also features a replacement fin.

The third aircraft is a 2-seater with yellow training bands. At some point, 'Sieglinde' has swapped cowlings with another HA.1112 which had worn the arid-pattern camouflage.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2012, 05:18:05 AM by apophenia »
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #152 on: February 28, 2012, 05:24:25 AM »
Brilliant 109s! 8)

Offline JP Vieira

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #153 on: February 28, 2012, 06:21:45 AM »
Very good!

Offline apophenia

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #154 on: February 28, 2012, 11:26:40 AM »
Cheers lads! Next batch are captured '109s. The first has been resprayed in early Kenyan markings. The second is a war trophy in the Cape still in its New South African Republic markings.
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #155 on: February 28, 2012, 11:48:39 AM »
How about an air-racing Buchon with a low-drag canopy and the Merlin replaced by a Griffon?

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« Reply #156 on: February 28, 2012, 04:57:27 PM »
Keep it up, it is great!

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #157 on: February 28, 2012, 07:52:14 PM »
 :-*

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #158 on: February 29, 2012, 02:48:00 AM »
definitely good work - the different markings/schemes are wonderful.
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #159 on: February 29, 2012, 07:44:09 AM »
Your African 109s have some wonderful color schemes!

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Offline apophenia

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #160 on: February 29, 2012, 12:32:10 PM »
Cheers guys! This batch are Kenyan and ex-Uganda '109s
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #161 on: February 29, 2012, 12:39:04 PM »
How about an air-racing Buchon with a low-drag canopy and the Merlin replaced by a Griffon?

Cool idea Evan. Here's my stab at it ... "¡Matalo, Hombre!"

First up is an Ejército del Aire aircraft reworked as a civil racer for recruiting purposes.  This Merlin engined racer is dubbed 'Manolo' to capitalize on the contemporary popularity of bullfighter Manuel Benitez Perez (aka El Cordobés).

The second aircraft is post EdA service display aircraft for Snecma division, Hispano-Suiza. This aircraft was based on a two-seater. The Merlin has been replaced by a Griffon 65 and a fuel tank replaces the forward cockpit to maintain balance.

And now I have to post and run ... my CPU's power supply sounds like an Ag-Cat preparing for take-off  :o
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #162 on: February 29, 2012, 05:43:59 PM »
Well,those racing aircraft looks really really cool !!!

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #163 on: February 29, 2012, 07:16:20 PM »
I love the Snecma Griffon with rear cokpit. So gorgeous :-*

Offline apophenia

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #164 on: March 01, 2012, 06:25:58 AM »
Thanks Tophe. This next installment of East African '109s requires a little more explanation ...

After WWII, Messerschmitt OA (in full, the Messerschmitt Ost Afrika Aktiengesellschaft) was set up primarily as an MRO facility and assembler of reclaimed or imported components. That changed when Messerschmitt OA began design of a Bf-109 replacement aircraft.

The Me-209 was unrelated to German designs with the same designation. Messerschmitt OA's 209 was intended to close the performance gap between OstAfrikan Luftwaffe fighters and the RAF Spitfire 24s and FAA Sea Furies being encountered.

The basic structure of the Bf-109 was retained for the Me-209 concept. Power was increased through the use of a French 2100 hp Arsaéro 12H-00 inverted V12 (a developed, Arsenal-built Jumo 213 -- an engine type then being imported as spares for the OAL's Ju-188 fleet).

In its original guise, the Me-209 distinguished itself from its progenitor by having an all-around vision canopy over a raised cockpit position. This allowed the Messerschmitt OA designers to increase fuselage fuel, maintain c/g, and improve pilot sight-lines.

After review by the TA-OAL (Technische Amt der OstAfrika Luftwaffe), the initial Me-209 proposal was rejected as being underpowered and having insufficient development potential. Messerschmitt OA answered with the revised Me-209TL with an exhaust-driven turbocharger. The latter was a TKL 15 (also obtained from the French) in an underbelly fairing.

Additional power came in the form of a 2250 hp Arsaéro 12H-02 engine driving a five-bladed propeller. The wingtips were to be extended to improve performance at altitude and a new tail surface (inspired by the OAL's Me-262) would help control the planned fighter. Once again, the TA-OAL rejected the Me-209 design. But Messerschmitt OA wasn't finished with their Me-209 concept just yet ...
« Last Edit: March 01, 2012, 06:27:30 AM by apophenia »
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #165 on: March 01, 2012, 02:48:29 PM »
Could try a Me-262 wing less engines on these last two.

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #166 on: March 02, 2012, 06:41:17 AM »
Your Me 209 is a fantastic concept, apophenia! Wish I'd thought of it!

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« Reply #167 on: March 04, 2012, 07:27:47 PM »
Great 209s!

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #168 on: March 04, 2012, 08:46:07 PM »
Great ones!

Offline apophenia

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #169 on: March 05, 2012, 11:18:22 AM »
Thanks guys! My old captions for the Ost Afrika series popped up on my hard drive. So, I think I'll turn that into a storyline. Meanwhile someone asked about US Sunderlands ...
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Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #170 on: March 05, 2012, 11:20:22 AM »
Very cool.  Those look great.

Cheers,

Logan

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #171 on: March 05, 2012, 11:33:57 AM »
Thanks Logan. I forgot to acknowledge that I based them on an RAF profile by Andrey Yurgenson  :-[
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #172 on: March 05, 2012, 05:00:10 PM »
Fantastic!!!
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Offline JP Vieira

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #173 on: March 05, 2012, 05:27:53 PM »
The Sunderlands are great!

Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #174 on: March 05, 2012, 06:24:59 PM »
Very Cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!