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Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« on: January 12, 2012, 06:15:53 PM »
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An area for your Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration.

To start, how about a West German or Italian F-8.

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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2012, 08:25:19 PM »
Did a bunch of Crusader profiles back in the day, including USAF, TPS USN, RAF & RAN along with four TF-8s, three of which were modded as recce platforms.  Also worth noting that my last F-8 was for Carl as a twin-sticker (although not in the Twosader mould, toting AIM-54s.

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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2012, 02:00:09 AM »
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a twin-sticker (although not in the Twosader mould

Funny.  That made me instantly think of a "Twosader" with side-by-side seating ala TF-102 or EE. Lightning Trainers.

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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 05:35:36 AM »
Swing wing, teardrop canopy, and "F-16 style" intake moved a bit back. All in one plane.

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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 05:45:14 AM »
I am pretty certain our very own Sentinel Chicken did a VG Crusader a few years ago.  Maybe he will repost it here.
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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2012, 09:50:32 AM »
F-8/V-529 (A-7 with two dry F404s replacing the dry TF41) cross with two afterburner-equipped F404s and add whatever other updates you want (I'd redo the wing to allow more hardpoints with spacing similar to that of the A-7's wing).

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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2012, 01:15:32 AM »
Some old profiles I did. The backstory was that with Britain getting involved in Vietnam, the FAA made a "panic buy" of F-8s, and then later, limited to a new generation of small conventional carriers, they developed an advanced version with Vought and Hawker-Siddeley which features a raised cockpit, a better radar, and an afterburning Spey. The Paladin ended up being adopted by the French (in exchange for the FAA using French AAMs) and various other nations who bought copies of the British or French carrier designs. Two groups of the smaller NATO nations then "clubbed together" to run jointly owned carriers, with Paladins, one in the North Sea/Atlantic and one in the Mediterranean.











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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2012, 04:24:08 AM »
I am pretty certain our very own Sentinel Chicken did a VG Crusader a few years ago.  Maybe he will repost it here.


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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2012, 05:26:33 AM »
Certainly looks like it would work as a kit bash between a Tomcat and Crusader.  Or a Flogger and Crusader. 
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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2012, 12:40:27 PM »
Certainly looks like it would work as a kit bash between a Tomcat and Crusader.  Or a Flogger and Crusader.
Either a scaleorama between a smaller scale Tomcat and a Crusader or a same-scale bash between a later-model Flogger and a Crusader.  My only concern is that the wing looks to be a bit too far aft for proper stability.

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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 02:30:25 AM »
An idea sprouted over in the "McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration" thread - USAF gets F-8s instead of cancelled F-4s.

Maybe replace variable incidence wing or at least lock it in position.  Eventually replace engine?

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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2012, 11:00:55 AM »
I can see the engine getting replaced by a J79 (lighter and smaller engine with same thrust as J57) with the TF41 following on to keep pace with the A-7 in USAF usage (though a full multi-role F-8 with several wing hardpoints might obviate the need for the A-7 - be "amusing" if the improved wing for the USAF fed back into the Navy's aircraft).  Personally, I'd keep the wing variable in incidence rather than locking it down, but that's me wanting to give pilots as many options as possible.

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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2012, 11:40:01 AM »
An old idea of mine (not that I'd think myself to be the first one to cook it up):

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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2012, 02:11:46 PM »
It gets even more interesting if you look at the various two-seat Super Crusaders described in Tommy Thompson's book on the aircraft.  A truly marvelous read.

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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2012, 06:50:30 PM »
I can see the engine getting replaced by a J79 (lighter and smaller engine with same thrust as J57) with the TF41 following on to keep pace with the A-7 in USAF usage (though a full multi-role F-8 with several wing hardpoints might obviate the need for the A-7 - be "amusing" if the improved wing for the USAF fed back into the Navy's aircraft).  Personally, I'd keep the wing variable in incidence rather than locking it down, but that's me wanting to give pilots as many options as possible.

Agree fully re the engines.
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