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Offline Tophe

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #75 on: February 27, 2012, 07:43:17 PM »
You are right, maybe this memory inspired my dreamy "discovery"...
For the push-pull Cobras, with tandem central in-line engines (and belly air scoops), I think there is nothing to explain:

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #76 on: February 29, 2012, 01:11:44 AM »
Corrected with low fins to protect the rear propellers...

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #77 on: March 08, 2012, 04:39:30 AM »
Do you know the glider versions of the Bell Cobras?

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #78 on: March 10, 2012, 10:58:04 PM »
The Bell Spatscobra designer hesitated (for both versions Air & King) between nose-wheel and tail-wheel:

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #79 on: March 11, 2012, 03:21:49 AM »
My what lovely spats you have! I am especially enamored of the tricycled ones!

 :-* :-* :-*

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #80 on: March 11, 2012, 07:18:35 AM »
He He. Love the Spatscobras  :)
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #81 on: March 11, 2012, 03:57:02 PM »
Thanks.
Now something different: the Cobras TT (Two-seat Twin-fin) had a very different shape

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #82 on: March 11, 2012, 06:03:34 PM »
I love those TT,especially P-63,GP-39B glider is also interesting

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Offline JP Vieira

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #83 on: March 11, 2012, 06:16:54 PM »
The twin-fin cobras are great; they could be the basis for a powerful ground attack version (like a western built shturmovik)

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #84 on: March 12, 2012, 11:40:42 AM »
Tophe: I like the Cobras TT. The twin-tails change the look a lot! One question: Where is the engine in your two-seaters? Further aft or in the nose?
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #85 on: March 12, 2012, 12:08:01 PM »
Thanks for your comments, all...
Concerning the engine position in the TT-Cobras, the answer is... "this is a very good, puzzling question", I will work on it... I mean: "with engine in the nose, this would destroy the Bell Cobra concept, and with engine aft, this requires adapting, I will..." Thanks for your technical wisdom, dream alone is not enough. ;)

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #86 on: March 12, 2012, 12:32:37 PM »
Bell designers understood the balance problem of a central engine becoming aft engine on the Cobra. So they designed the improved Apophobra: a tail wheel improved balance on the ground and a tandem-wing (à-la-Delanne) improved balance in flight. Thanks Apoph-inspiration...

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #87 on: March 13, 2012, 03:56:14 AM »
Spitfire young girls met Thunderbolt young men and... they fell pregnant:

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #88 on: March 13, 2012, 05:06:16 AM »
I'm a sucker for a love story, Tophe and I like your "Thunderfire", especially the top one!

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #89 on: March 13, 2012, 10:56:09 AM »
Love the 'Thunderfire' as well. Plus problem solved for the TT-Cobras and I'm famous to boot ... win/win!

Your Delanne solution is very elegant Tophe. Nice to have some extra lifting surface if she's getting tail-heavy  :)
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #90 on: March 14, 2012, 01:31:39 PM »
Thanks!
and... the daughter of Bubble-Thunderfire was Spitbolt, a poor girl needing aesthetical surgery maybe... towards the look of her cousin XP-47H?

Offline Tophe

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #91 on: March 15, 2012, 03:45:19 AM »
her cousin XP-47H?
Historians do pretend there was nothing between the XP-47H and XP-47J. Wrong! (Secret!) There was the streamlined YP-47H and the bubble XP-47I...

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #92 on: March 15, 2012, 05:32:18 AM »
Great ones

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #93 on: March 15, 2012, 10:14:18 AM »
Historians do pretend there was nothing between the XP-47H and XP-47J. Wrong! (Secret!) There was the streamlined YP-47H and the bubble XP-47I...

Tophe: that turbocharger-less XP-47I is HOT! But we mustn't forget the service P-47I ...
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Offline Tophe

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #94 on: March 15, 2012, 10:27:48 AM »
Wonderful! Thanks ApophenIa...

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #95 on: March 16, 2012, 07:20:53 PM »
I just love your work, Tophe and I only wish I had the money to make plastic kits of your wonderful ideas!

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #96 on: March 16, 2012, 11:37:45 PM »
Lovin' the P-47s!

Offline Tophe

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #97 on: March 17, 2012, 02:57:01 AM »
Thanks!
And here is an uncommon 2-seat Thunderbolt: side but side and without a single canopy but two.

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #98 on: March 17, 2012, 08:20:43 AM »
Double-Bubble?  ;D
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #99 on: March 17, 2012, 10:12:04 AM »
her cousin XP-47H?
Historians do pretend there was nothing between the XP-47H and XP-47J. Wrong! (Secret!) There was the streamlined YP-47H and the bubble XP-47I...
Did you forget the attempt to put a rear open machine gun station and later the enclosed 'ball' turret on the -H and -J using a multi-seat cockpit?