Author Topic: M1 Abrams Tank Ideas and Inspiration (Read 112180 times)

Story · « **Reply #125 on:** June 29, 2024, 12:36:00 AM »

Remember when Cope Cages were silly?

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #126 on:** June 29, 2024, 01:48:10 AM »

Field mods like this are still of dubious value - see how the Russian ones have proven ineffectual. I suggest the following is worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhfGspOIg24

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhfGspOIg24" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhfGspOIg24</a>

Story · « **Reply #127 on:** June 29, 2024, 03:12:26 AM »

Over an hour? I don't care enough to spend that much time on the subject.

apophenia · « **Reply #128 on:** June 29, 2024, 03:50:47 AM »

Quote from: Story on June 29, 2024, 03:12:26 AM

Over an hour? I don't care enough to spend that much time on the subject.

Don't be so hasty ... Perun is definitely worth any amount of time expended. His 'videos' are basically just PowerPoint displays but they are packed with pithy insights and solid research.

He hasn't posted anything new for two weeks and I, personally, am going through some fairly serious withdrawal symptoms!

If it is the specific subject area that you are unwilling to spend that time on, I'd suggest browsing the Perun playlists.
-- https://www.youtube.com/@PerunAU

Each and every Perun video is a potential gateway drug ... I'm just hoping that my weekly fix will be resumed on Sunday night. Still, "first thing you learn is that you always gotta wait".

</fanboy mode>

ChalkLine · « **Reply #129 on:** June 29, 2024, 01:33:47 PM »

This is very good video.
He's balanced, take a cautious view towards his sources and has a good understanding of the situation. I suspect his approach to sources comes from academic training because this is a required approach there although to be honest there's always been a segment of society that has intrinsically understood 'all sources have an inherent bias'.
A big problem on the 'reporting' coming from Ukraine is that most of the commentators don't bother to distinguish between the regular and irregular forces or attempt to understand their logistics. Groups such as the irregular Ukrainian militias or the irregular Donbass militias essentially rely on donated equipment and scrounge from military storehouses.
As I've consistently maintained through this conflict that's been brewing since 2008 we won't really know the 'truth' about things for at least twenty years. I base this on the releases from all prior conflicts I've studied at uni and since then.

Story · « **Reply #130 on:** June 29, 2024, 11:17:02 PM »

Quote from: apophenia on June 29, 2024, 03:50:47 AM

Don't be so hasty ... Perun is definitely worth any amount of time expended. His 'videos' are basically just PowerPoint displays but they are packed with pithy insights and solid research.

Not hasty, familiar with Perun. I'm disinclined because - as we have seen countless times - all weapons systems go through a growth pattern from their genesis.

Like the cope cage's first appearance, I'm sure there were similar dismissive reactions to those silly tanks of 1915.

Frank3k · « **Reply #131 on:** June 30, 2024, 01:40:30 AM »

United24 has very good interviews with the Ukrainian military in the filed.

This one is about the issues, opinions and field mods on the M1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puL0L4j2RHo

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #132 on:** June 30, 2024, 01:47:19 AM »

Quote from: Frank3k on June 30, 2024, 01:40:30 AM

United24 has very good interviews with the Ukrainian military in the filed.

This one is about the issues, opinions and field mods on the M1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puL0L4j2RHo

Agree. In that particular video there is an aspect of the Abrams that my company is actually working to solve. Will hopefully launch it in the coming months.

Frank3k · « **Reply #133 on:** June 30, 2024, 03:03:21 AM »

Quote from: GTX_Admin on June 30, 2024, 01:47:19 AM

Agree. In that particular video there is an aspect of the Abrams that my company is actually working to solve. Will hopefully lance it in the coming months.

"lance"... is that a slip?

Kerick · « **Reply #134 on:** June 30, 2024, 04:14:38 AM »

People thought slat/bar armor was silly even though it was used by the brown water navy in Vietnam. Now everyone has it.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #135 on:** June 30, 2024, 04:22:50 AM »

Quote from: Frank3k on June 30, 2024, 03:03:21 AM

Quote from: GTX_Admin on June 30, 2024, 01:47:19 AM
Agree. In that particular video there is an aspect of the Abrams that my company is actually working to solve. Will hopefully lance it in the coming months.

"lance"... is that a slip?

Typo - now corrected

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #136 on:** June 30, 2024, 04:27:07 AM »

Quote from: Kerick on June 30, 2024, 04:14:38 AM

People thought slat/bar armor was silly even though it was used by the brown water navy in Vietnam. Now everyone has it.

Well not quite everyone...

Kerick · « **Reply #137 on:** June 30, 2024, 01:14:29 PM »

Quote from: GTX_Admin on June 30, 2024, 04:27:07 AM

Quote from: Kerick on June 30, 2024, 04:14:38 AM
People thought slat/bar armor was silly even though it was used by the brown water navy in Vietnam. Now everyone has it.

Well not quite everyone...

No not everyone, but many of the usual loudmouth types. Most of those were politicians. Every time the military comes up with something new the usual suspects come out to say how terrible it is even when they have no clue what its about or how it works.
I also recall how many armor units in Vietnam set up makeshift chain link fencing around their vehicles at night to stop rpg type warheads.

ChalkLine · « **Reply #138 on:** June 30, 2024, 02:34:54 PM »

The chain link pretty much is morale armour because a 66mm M72 LAW will spear right through it as tests showed in the USA. That said, the PG-7V grenade fired from the RPG-7 has a bare piezo fuze in the front of the grenade* so it's possible it might detonate early but even so it needs a stand-off of 450mm at least to disrupt the jet. This doesn't stop people using chain link because any chance is better than none.

(Evidently in Afghanistan the RPG gunners of the ANA didn't like the idea with messing around with the fuze protector cap in combat so the moment they loaded the weapon they took off the cap. A friend of mine was on the back of a truck when one guy decided to climb up with him, scaring the life out of him as this bare fuze was waving around)

Old Wombat · « **Reply #139 on:** June 30, 2024, 10:33:22 PM »

Neither slat armour nor chain link fencing were designed to activate the warhead of an RPG (their intended foe) but to disrupt their flight path, to knock the warhead off kilter, so that it didn't hit within its effective range of angle of impact, thereby rendering it ineffective.

Both were quite effective at this, the slat armour being somewhat more effective.

Kerick · « **Reply #140 on:** July 01, 2024, 02:17:54 AM »

The slat/bar armor was also good at actually crushing the warhead when it hit the slat, even if the fuze made it through. This deformed or destroyed the shape of the shaped charge and made the blast ineffective.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #141 on:** November 16, 2024, 02:48:03 AM »

Kind of different to see Abrams in cam netting:

CFBVs

Old Wombat · « **Reply #142 on:** November 16, 2024, 08:02:54 AM »

Rule 1 of modern tank warfare: Don't be seen by the drones!

Old Wombat · « **Reply #143 on:** November 16, 2024, 08:05:48 AM »

PS:

Quote from: GTX_Admin on November 16, 2024, 02:48:03 AM

CFBVs

Look! They're using Dragon figures!

Kerick · « **Reply #144 on:** November 16, 2024, 09:21:15 AM »

If those troops are from Ukraine they need their combat beaver!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1752567/Ukraine-soldiers-beaver-frontline-trenches/amp

Old Wombat · « **Reply #145 on:** November 16, 2024, 11:22:05 AM »

Quote from: Kerick on November 16, 2024, 09:21:15 AM

If those troops are from Ukraine they need their combat beaver!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1752567/Ukraine-soldiers-beaver-frontline-trenches/amp

Actually, they're from Australia & have forgotten to bring their Combat Wombat with them.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #146 on:** November 18, 2024, 02:20:28 AM »

Another photo:

Buzzbomb · « **Reply #147 on:** November 18, 2024, 05:54:22 AM »

Worked for the Leopards to keep the camo net handy. Nice promo shots.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #148 on:** January 15, 2025, 02:41:35 AM »

Found online:

AGDS-I"Colorado" self-propelled antiaircraft gun:

AGDS-II"Mississippi" self-propelled antiaircraft gun:

AGDS-III"Sherman M1" self-propelled antiaircraft gun:

CFBVs

Gingie · « **Reply #149 on:** January 15, 2025, 04:16:24 AM »

I'm sure there was a resin conversion of the M1 AD, I think it was 1/35 and that it came out of Scotland by the same crew that made the Israeli Centurion MLRS.


Fabulous '50s GB

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Author Topic: M1 Abrams Tank Ideas and Inspiration (Read 112180 times)