Author Topic: Empty Handed's Profiles (Read 277470 times)

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #400 on:** December 09, 2012, 03:11:43 AM »

Needs some nose art...

Jeremak · « **Reply #401 on:** December 09, 2012, 08:51:04 PM »

And Griffon powered long range version, escorting B-29 over Japan.

Empty Handed · « **Reply #402 on:** December 09, 2012, 10:14:31 PM »

Martin XP-68 USAAF by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

The Martin XP-68 on it's maiden flight.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #403 on:** December 10, 2012, 05:29:12 AM »

Empty Handed · « **Reply #404 on:** December 10, 2012, 07:51:30 AM »

Thanks!

Since there was no production contract forthcoming for the XP-68, the second, partially-constructed, prototype was extensively modified to become Martin's entry for the MX-511 requirement. Shortly thereafter, it became known as the XP-83. With it's 2 underpowered J34s, the XP-83 was slow, ponderous and heavy on the controls. It faired no better than it's piston-engined sibling and remained the sole example.

It was later handed over to the USAF where it found some use testing equipment for the various new-generation jet nightfighters.

Martin XP-83 USAF by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

From the archive: The XP-83 was intended to be the first in a new heavy fighter dynasty. Alas, it was not to be. This sketch, titled 'Martin Supersonic Interceptor For The 50s' was drawn shortly after the XP-83's first flight. It could be considered to be the ultimate evolution of the XP-83 configuration.

Martin Supersonic Interceptor For The 50s by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

Quote from: GTX_Admin on December 09, 2012, 03:11:43 AM

Needs some nose art...

I did try and have a go at some nose art......

Nose Art by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

elmayerle · « **Reply #405 on:** December 10, 2012, 10:26:49 AM »

That nose art looks like it would be perfect for a recce bird. *grin* I can just see it on an operational F-12 "Rainbow" operating at will over Der Grosser Reich.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #406 on:** December 10, 2012, 07:45:49 PM »

Looking good.

apophenia · « **Reply #407 on:** December 11, 2012, 05:57:15 AM »

Love the fighters -- especially the mid-engined one -- but my personal fav is still the B2M-1 :)

Empty Handed · « **Reply #408 on:** December 12, 2012, 05:29:19 AM »

Thanks!

Martin XP-84 & XP-84A Marlin:

Martin XP-84 Marlin USAAF by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

Martin XP-84A Marlin USAAF by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

--- Derived from the P-49, with Republic's F-84 and SNCASO SO-6020 Espadon clearly influential.

http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Braas/4349L.jpg

http://www.aerofiles.com/repub-yp84a.jpg

Empty Handed · « **Reply #409 on:** December 12, 2012, 11:43:14 AM »

There were only two B model F-84s ever produced. Both were taken off the A model production line in an effort to determine the best placement for the intake as the ventral position was prone to what is now known as FODing.

The first was fitted with a nose intake which resulted in much lower drag but precluded use of a radar and was thus quickly dismissed. The airframe was used as an engine testbed for all subsequent models that utilised the Allison J35.

Martin XP-84B Marlin No. 1 USAAF by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

The second prototype, nearly complete, had the extended intake trunking bifurcated short of the nose, allowing two lateral intakes to be used and thus a radar to be retained. This configuration was selected for the next production model, the C, albeit with the intakes cut back to the wing root.

Martin XP-84B Marlin No. 2 USAAF by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

Martin F-84C Marlin IAC by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

A F-84C Marlin of the IAC.

apophenia · « **Reply #410 on:** December 12, 2012, 12:37:59 PM »

Great evolutionary process for the Marlins! :)

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #411 on:** December 12, 2012, 03:41:44 PM »

Love the last one.

Empty Handed · « **Reply #412 on:** December 13, 2012, 02:22:15 AM »

Thanks!

Martin F-84D Marlin USAF 22nd FBS by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

Martin YF-84E Marlin USAF by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

apophenia · « **Reply #413 on:** December 13, 2012, 03:21:05 AM »

Love that swoopy YF-84E! And its great how Martin keeps tweaking its intake designs :)

Empty Handed · « **Reply #414 on:** December 13, 2012, 10:04:38 PM »

Thanks! I figured the "spectacle" intakes on the C, being hold-overs from the P-49's belly scoop in design, would be just about ready for replacement by '48/49.

As for the E, I envisioned a (primitive) afterburner which meant a longer engine. How to accommodate this without increasing the length of the aircraft, impinging on the nose or interfering with the new thin wing in a way in keeping with late '40s/early 50's design??? Chin intake.

That or I couldn't make up my mind!!! _{(I am a libran!)}

Empty Handed · « **Reply #415 on:** December 27, 2012, 01:58:48 AM »

Got there in the end.....

Grumman A-6C Intruder USAF Combat Hammer by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

Logan Hartke · « **Reply #416 on:** December 27, 2012, 02:03:06 AM »

That's nice! I like it.

Cheers,

Logan

ChernayaAkula · « **Reply #417 on:** December 27, 2012, 05:24:29 AM »

Way cool! :)

Empty Handed · « **Reply #418 on:** December 30, 2012, 01:03:20 AM »

Thanks guys!

Intruder swansong:

Grumman A-6G Intruder USAF 27th FW by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

apophenia · « **Reply #419 on:** December 30, 2012, 12:09:40 PM »

Excellent shading on that A-6G! :)

Empty Handed · « **Reply #420 on:** January 02, 2013, 02:13:26 AM »

Thanks!

Here's a couple of quickies:

Central NC.1080 Cimeterre IB Aeronavale by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

Central NC.1090 Cimeterre II Prototype by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

Slerski · « **Reply #421 on:** January 03, 2013, 05:18:23 AM »

Nice profiles, the NC.1080 have a kind of Attacker/Swift look :)

(And just for the information, it's Centre not Central or AéroCentre

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Empty Handed · « **Reply #422 on:** January 03, 2013, 10:01:40 PM »

Yeah there is quite a bit of a Supermarine vibe to them. Between that and the alliteration, Cimeterre just seemed a natural choice. I went with Central rather than Centre because Centre just didn't have that ring to it. I hope you'll forgive a tiny bit of artistic license.

Slerski · « **Reply #423 on:** January 04, 2013, 03:09:28 AM »

No problem, after all it's a sort of whiff-land :)

Empty Handed · « **Reply #424 on:** January 04, 2013, 08:03:32 PM »

Inspired by Apophenia's recent Dewoitine offerings, I've decided to play with his idea of SNCAM sticking around post-war with Dewoitine at the helm.

I intend to concentrate on Dewoitine's Argentinian designs and leave the D.520 derivations to the far more talented Apophenia. First up is the SNCAM M.650 (IAe 26):

SNCAM M.650 AdlA by mtpalmer1, on Flickr


Fabulous '50s GB

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