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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2012, 11:12:51 AM »
Sure ... Maschinen-Fabrik Augsberg-Nurnberg MG 18 TuF:
http://www.cruffler.com/Features/FEB-02/Maxim13mmTuF.jpg

Maxim Flak: http://www.kaisersbunker.com/cc/cc18c.jpg [sideview sketches]
http://media.photobucket.com/image/Maxim-Nordenfelt%2037mm/prion_photos/DSC_0034.jpg

Finding good online images of the 37mm Maxim-Nordenfelt can be a little tricky because the name kept changing and/or has since been mis-applied to other autocannons (Hotchkiss or Krupp) in German service. If you want to search further, you might try:

* 3,7 cm Masch. K (3,7cm Maschinenkanone) -- Kaiserliche Marine name
* 3,7 cm M FLAK (3,7cm Maxim Flak) -- Deutsches Heer name
* 3,7 cm Flak M 14 (3,7cm Flak Modele 1914) -- Reichswehr name

BTW, there was also an experimental Gast-Flieger MG firing the same 13x92SR round as the MG 18 TuF. As the name (and air-cooled barrels) suggest, the twin-barrelled Gast-Flieger was intended for aircraft use from the outset. It's less clear whether TuF was actually meant to be aircraft mounted ... but, then again, this is what-if  ;)
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2012, 06:58:02 AM »
just a little more progress







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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2012, 10:20:31 AM »
Looking good  :)  So, backward stagger like the Airco DH.5?
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2012, 04:35:46 PM »
Am following and liking. 
This is good and without an engine hogging front of fuselage or a propeller to shoot thru, it can be a WW1 equivalent to P-39.

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2012, 10:27:24 PM »
Excellent job!  :)
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2012, 08:24:36 AM »
ok. trying to figure out the landing gear. one wheel on each lower wing with a frame underneath the nose for a front? or a skyhook for zepplin duty? or a open tube frame out the back to make it a tail dragger?

hmmmm...
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2012, 01:12:24 PM »
any thoughts or ideas?
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2012, 04:08:46 PM »
Nose wheel + standard WWI style undercarriage at the rear?
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2012, 08:02:37 PM »
Whatever you do.. this is looking great

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2012, 03:04:56 PM »
definately a trapeze-hook for a Zepplin  please :)

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2012, 11:37:56 PM »
Here's another vote for the skyhook. There's definitely not enough skyhooks.

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2012, 01:36:20 PM »
I discount Brian's vote for the trapeze due to his total self-interest ! ...... he just wants to build the airship to hang it from ;D

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2012, 01:43:33 PM »
Here's another vote for the skyhook. There's definitely not enough skyhooks.

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2012, 05:02:07 AM »
Here's another vote for the skyhook. There's definitely not enough skyhooks.

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Ok spats and a skyhook! Just like the Sparrowhawks flying up to the Macon!

Go with a spat up front and two in back under the wings.

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2012, 08:54:17 AM »
sorry bdb, but i am goin with tricycle type gear(but may still put a sky hook, with the wheels as emergency landing alt.) worked on the gear some last nite will post pics later .
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2012, 01:31:43 PM »




workin on the nose gear,post some pics after the great day. july 4
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #41 on: July 06, 2012, 02:57:18 AM »
Who could complain about three very lovely streamlined spats?

Looks like you're making excellent progress!

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2012, 04:54:48 AM »
I just remembered that a while back I drew something similar in concept to what you are building:

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2012, 06:52:50 AM »
you forgot to flip the top wing over, Greg :D

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2012, 12:48:07 AM »
i like the rudders on that one gtx, may do something simular on mine.
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2012, 05:41:07 AM »


not to thrilled about the muzzle brake on the cannon so i am workin on something else,but i do think the landing gear came out ok.
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #46 on: July 21, 2012, 04:34:18 PM »
Looking good.
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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2012, 06:09:16 PM »
Nice work on the landing gear! Looks like it belongs!

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #48 on: July 26, 2012, 01:15:42 AM »
Weird!

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Re: swept wing pusher bi-plane
« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2012, 07:02:39 AM »
... but i do think the landing gear came out ok.

Yep! And I love the anhedral on the lower wings  :)
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