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IA-58 Pucara
« on: February 03, 2018, 08:38:07 PM »
New tails for Pucara

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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2018, 02:26:15 AM »
Whiff Canadian PT6A powered version:



and my crude drawing of such:



Give it a pair of PT6A-68s and it would be quite the beast (standard IA-58 has twin Turbomeca Astazou XVIG turboprops of 729 kW (978 hp) each whereas a PT6A-68C version would have two engines of 1,200 kW (1,600 shp) each - almost a doubling of power!!!
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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2018, 02:27:52 AM »
Jet proposal (otherwise known as "I want to be an A-10..."):

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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2018, 02:37:47 AM »
Quote from: GTX_Admin on February 04, 2018, 02:26:15 AM
Whiff Canadian PT6A powered version:






I think I'm in love!!

I wonder if the A Model 1/72 King Air wings would work. Is there a 72nd Pucara?
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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2018, 02:48:42 AM »
There's the Airfix one:



Or the Special Hobby one:

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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2018, 02:27:40 PM »
^^^^^
But I think they are the same mold. Am I right?
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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2018, 07:08:33 PM »
Quote from: ysi_maniac on February 03, 2018, 08:38:07 PM
New tails for Pucara




I particularly like the top profile ysi_maniac - the one with the side-looking radar and A-10 twin tail fun arrangement!! :P
Any chance of a Alpha Jet like gun pod under the fuselage, say with a big bad ass Oerlikon KCA 30mm cannon or even a
Gsh-30-2 30mm cannon or 2A42 30mm cannon ;)

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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2018, 01:54:30 AM »
Quote from: ysi_maniac on February 04, 2018, 02:27:40 PM
^^^^^
But I think they are the same mold. Am I right?

I believe you are correct.
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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2018, 02:03:46 AM »
Quote from: M.A.D on February 04, 2018, 07:08:33 PM

Any chance of a Alpha Jet like gun pod under the fuselage, say with a big bad ass Oerlikon KCA 30mm cannon or even a
Gsh-30-2 30mm cannon or 2A42 30mm cannon ;)



There were actually developments with 30mm cannon:

IA-58B Pucará Bravo: Modified with deeper forward fuselage, allowing the 20 mm Hispano cannon to be replaced by two 30 mm DEFA cannons.



IA-58C Pucará Charlie: Single-seat version with additional 30 mm DEFA cannon supplementing existing gun armament.

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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2018, 02:07:06 AM »
More to the jet Pucara:

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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2018, 02:17:50 AM »
Rather than the photoshop PT6A powered version above, he is the real world version:







https://youtu.be/zGC3oizdMyM

It only has 950shp PT6A-62s (same engine as PC-9s) though and not the bigger -68C.
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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2018, 02:23:46 AM »
As I'm sure you know the British 'acquired' a Pucara following the Falklands war:



What if as part of war reparations a squadron or two were provided to the RAF as a COIN platform.  Might be interesting to see it in Harrier style scheme operating in Germany.  Maybe add on some additional sensors etc:

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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2018, 02:38:56 AM »
Quote from: GTX_Admin on February 04, 2018, 02:48:42 AM
There's the Airfix one:




Some time ago on a Falklands War anniversary, Airfix released a set which included the Pucara. There's six kits in the box and three of them were reboxed from other manufacturers, the Pucara, the Mirage and the A-4. Got the set in the stash --- somewhere  :-X

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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2018, 02:45:17 AM »
More PT6A powered version photos:



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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2018, 02:52:09 AM »
And more:



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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2018, 02:54:35 AM »
What would you say that air scoop is at the rear end of the nacelle Greg, not to do with the exhaust is it ?

Is this a recent modification ?
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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2018, 03:25:03 AM »
Quote from: ysi_maniac on February 03, 2018, 08:38:07 PM
New tails for Pucara




I particularly like the top profile ysi_maniac - the one with the side-looking radar and A-10 twin tail fun arrangement!! :P
Any chance of a Alpha Jet like gun pod under the fuselage, say with a big bad ass Oerlikon KCA 30mm cannon or even a
Gsh-30-2 30mm cannon or 2A42 30mm cannon ;)

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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2018, 03:34:56 AM »
Pucara with inboard engines off P-3 would be high performance !
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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2018, 06:04:34 AM »
And if you can be patient, Kinetic is working on a 1/48 kit.

I'm wishing I'd waited and saved up for that rather than springing for the SH kit.
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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2018, 01:14:16 AM »
Quote from: KiwiZac on February 05, 2018, 06:04:34 AM
And if you can be patient, Kinetic is working on a 1/48 kit.

I'm wishing I'd waited and saved up for that rather than springing for the SH kit.

Oh shut up!!  I have a couple of 1/48 resin ones...
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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2018, 01:20:13 AM »
Quote from: M.A.D on February 05, 2018, 03:25:03 AM
Quote from: ysi_maniac on February 03, 2018, 08:38:07 PM
New tails for Pucara




I particularly like the top profile ysi_maniac - the one with the side-looking radar and A-10 twin tail fun arrangement!! :P
Any chance of a Alpha Jet like gun pod under the fuselage, say with a big bad ass Oerlikon KCA 30mm cannon or even a
Gsh-30-2 30mm cannon or 2A42 30mm cannon ;)

M.A.D


Duplicate post??
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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2018, 01:32:32 AM »
Quote from: kitnut617 on February 05, 2018, 02:54:35 AM
What would you say that air scoop is at the rear end of the nacelle Greg, not to do with the exhaust is it ?

Is this a recent modification ?

I believe the extra scoop is to provide more cooling air - apparently they have had some issues.

The mods were made in 2015 and the aircraft is now designated IA-58H.
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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2018, 01:34:23 AM »
BTW, there was also the one-of IA-66 development with TPE-331s:

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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2018, 01:36:13 AM »
Thanks Greg, so it's an upgrade program to keep them flying ---
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Re: IA-58 Pucara
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2018, 01:40:45 AM »
It was...but it appears to have gone into hiatus in 2017....

BTW, here is a small drawing I found as well:

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