Author Topic: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP  (Read 62297 times)

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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2022, 08:38:26 PM »
280mm mortar? WOW! That's HUUUUUUUGE! They look good. Nice sniper weapons too.

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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2022, 12:06:58 AM »
Big BaddaBoom.

Just for general inspiration, here's the Soviet/Russian 240mm mortar.

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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2022, 07:35:20 AM »
More WIP images of the Amusing Hobby 280mm mortar Paper-Panzer what-if.  First image is the what-if mortar shell that I crafted earlier with fin span now reduced to actually fit in the mortar tube.  The mortar bomb body was also reduced in diameter through copious amounts of finger numbing sanding with the end result now also fitting inside the mortar tube. 

I realized that a mortar this large could not be sheltered from the element unless it was parked inside of large shed or garage.  So the need to fabricate a Tampion (Muzzle Plug) was in the works.  Second image showing the mortar tub with Tampion next to the muzzle.  Third image showing the mortar tube with the Tampion inserted.  "It fits like a glove" as some would say in describing this and it took more time finding the "right parts" to make the Tampion than it did in crafting it.  I am quite pleased with the simplicity of the thing and that it fits without issue made it a fun experience. 

I should also point out that a big thank you goes out to Steve Blazo for his technical assistance on the use of the small O-Rings that I picked up based on his help in sorting that little problem out on what to use for the propellant increments on my what-if mortar shell. 
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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2022, 07:49:31 AM »
Continuing on with the Amusing Hobby 280mm mortar ammunition.  The mortar shell provided in the kit is a bit dodgy looking as far as what you would expect a mortar bomb to look like it checks off most of the boxes but it was bugging me a bit as it features the fuze on the nose of the bomb body that looks like a tiny little nipple sticking up from the nose and not like what you would expect an artillery shell fuze (mortar or cannon) to look like.  I could at this point just remove the offending little nub but then I would be fighting the urge to go further and drill out the nose for the fuze well that would be present if the fuze were removed or a filler plug that would have to be removed prior to inserting said fuze.  I opted for an alternative solution.  Hide the offending pip and leave it be. 

What could be used for this purpose?  Thankfully I have a box of odds and ends within reach that contains stuff that has not been donated or further categorized and put away so a quick inspection of these odds and ends netted some suitable candidates for the role of obscuring the odd little fuze on the mortar bomb.  Some return rollers from an unknown kit presented the best and quickest solution to the problem.  I assembled to of the things, one on top of the other, scraped away some parts that were standing proud from the back of each were the return roller would have mated up with an axle of some kind on the original vehicle and all of a sudden I had a protective collar to place over the nose end of the mortar bomb.  There was still a little space left for another single return roller to be placed behind the dodgy fin section of the mortar bomb to provide the needed protection at that end of the munition.  While the bare material looks a bit on the primitive side, it fulfills the function I envisioned for it and take care of that tiny fuze problem. 

One more thing to add.  I find it laughable that the Amusing Hobby box art for this kit depicts two gunners carrying one of these 280mm mortar shells in the box.  That mortar shell is more than two-man lift/two man carry.  More like four man lift/four man carry at a minimum. 
« Last Edit: March 01, 2022, 07:52:04 AM by Jeffry Fontaine »
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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2022, 09:54:02 PM »
Those mortar shells are coming along nicely.

This one looks good and I know you said they were what if but not sure why you made it human shaped HAHAHAHAHA!




This mortar is a cool design though.

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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2022, 11:52:29 PM »
The rest of the Magazine takes note of the firing sequence.

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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2022, 04:49:42 AM »
The rest of the Magazine takes note of the firing sequence.


There's always "that guy" no matter what HAHAHAHAHA!

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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2022, 09:33:22 AM »
That's the "practical joker" guy, who knows he's just put a 5 second delay primer on the base of the mortar. ;)
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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2022, 01:04:56 PM »
That's the "practical joker" guy, who knows he's just put a 5 second delay primer on the base of the mortar. ;)
Probably the same guy that is responsible for all of the "trench-like" engraved details on certain model kits.   :icon_twisted:
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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2024, 09:45:24 AM »
Not a lot to say about this beyond the huge PITA to assemble and poor fit of the parts.  Acquired from a seller on eBay out of curiosity.  Configured the pieces in what I perceived to be for storage and shipment before actual use. 
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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2024, 05:35:40 PM »
Well, whatever the issues, you've done a good job of it, Jeff! :smiley:
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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2024, 02:12:48 AM »
I agree - it looks good.

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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2024, 08:52:43 AM »
Thanks for the kind words. 

Dry fitting of the pipe sections was a breeze with the seams appearing to be nearly invisible.  Great expectations that were soon foiled as soon as the liquid cement was applied to join the sections together.  At this point I was committed and found great disappointment upon seeing the closed seams open up before my eyes as the cemented together sections cured and discovered that there was no way to undo what was now a finished assembly.  A good coat of paint should help in obscuring the blemish but yeah, it sucks when the dry-fitting looks  so much better than the finished product. 
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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2024, 04:57:33 AM »
I am huge Churchill fan, but for some reason, this kit is not on my list of must haves.
So good to know where the possible problem areas are, in case one does find a way into my collection.
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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2024, 07:15:54 AM »
 Sorry to hear about the assembly issue- but I can only imagine the challenge of building it deployed... Agree with the others here- it don't look bad at all.

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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2024, 07:22:03 AM »
Found this - 79th Armoured Div. (Hobart's Funnies).
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/firearmcentral/images/2/26/Churchill_Snake-Carrier.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160410095707

Also have a pic of a Churchill towing a long length off an LCT.

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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2024, 11:25:44 AM »
Found this - 79th Armoured Div. (Hobart's Funnies).
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/firearmcentral/images/2/26/Churchill_Snake-Carrier.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160410095707

Also have a pic of a Churchill towing a long length off an LCT.
I discovered a similar image of that version of the Churchill SNAKE carrier.  The AFV Club kit parts are sufficient for just eight SNAKE pipes per side of the AFV Club kit, thus a lighter load.  I combined the four sections of eight SNAKE pipes into one stack in order to use the majority of the parts that were provided on the sprues.  No clue as to accuracy but it looks like a load for a truck/trailer which works for me. 
« Last Edit: February 27, 2024, 11:27:26 AM by Jeffry Fontaine »
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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2024, 09:10:51 PM »
Never even knew that kit existed. Nice progress on the pipes.

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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #43 on: February 29, 2024, 04:59:57 AM »
So, is it a giant bangalore torpedo? The MICLIC's grandfather?

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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #44 on: February 29, 2024, 05:46:29 AM »
So, is it a giant bangalore torpedo? The MICLIC's grandfather?
Pretty much.  Much less "flexibility" than the MCLC.  :smiley:
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Re: What-If Weapons - Ground - WIP
« Reply #45 on: February 29, 2024, 08:40:39 PM »
Well, being a grandfather myself, I fully understand & appreciate its lack of flexibility. ;) ;D
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