Author Topic: SAAB J-21...Anti-shipping/Anti-Kraken strike  (Read 11708 times)

Offline Dr. YoKai

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Re: SAAB J-21...Anti-shipping/Anti-Kraken strike
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2024, 08:51:35 AM »
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 The underwing rockets are going to be a larger version of the halv - pansar, one to a wing, ...
Please remember to spell it "halvpansarraket", if you keep the Armour Piercing / High Explosive function  ;)

Men självklart!  :smiley:

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Re: SAAB J-21...Anti-shipping/Anti-Kraken strike
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2024, 04:16:21 AM »
And pretty much finished. The canopy, which was in three pieces was...difficult. I had left it off during painting, and finished the framing with thin strips of decal paper. Not perfect, but better than my eyes and a brush could manage. There was a near-disaster with the decals-though they came off the sheet quite nicely considering their age, they were also very thin, and a couple of the roundels fractured around portions of the rims. I mixed up a bit of yellow paint, blended brush-tips of...brown I think? and managed a fair match. The pair of pansarskydd/antikraken raket* were cobbled together in about as whiffy a fashion as you could like. The bodies came from a pair of 1/144 missiles from an older Gundam kit (The F-50 Guntank kit from the Gundam F-91 series, circa 1991.),  with the fins from some ordnance from a Takara  1/100 scale F-100, also from an anime series. (Area 88) Finally since I had started this some kind of heavy anti-ship missile in mind, and the first thing I came across was the Rb 302, which had mid body wings (at least I think it did-searches that turned up pictures of it a few weeks ago come up empty today. ???) And those wings? Inner landing gear doors from an old Frog MC 202. (I have three of them, with the notion of turning the mess into the IMAM Ro. 67 tri-motor fighter one of these days...) Anyway, pictures-
DSCF1067 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr

DSCF1068 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr

DSCF1071 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr

DSCF1074 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr

Back story in a day or two.
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Offline apophenia

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Re: SAAB J-21...Anti-shipping/Anti-Kraken strike
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2024, 05:49:31 AM »
Beautiful result, Doc!  :-*

... the first thing I came across was the Rb 302, which had mid body wings (at least I think it did-searches that turned up pictures of it a few weeks ago come up empty today...

Yes, the provrobot Rb 302 was mid-winged. As the attached photo from the Robotmuseum shows, the main missile body had a minature airplane layout. For its original ground-launched trials, to assist the launch catapult, the Rb 302 was fitted with a solid-rocket booster motor with cropped cruciform fins. Twin-endplate fins were used for ground launches, later replaced by a sleeker annular fin for air-launch.

The main thing about the Rb 302, though, was that it was purely a test vehicle. Rb 302 was a scale-model (in 1/125 1:1.25) for testing the aerodynamic shape and operational concept for the full-sized Rb 303 anti-shipping missile.

-- https://robotmuseum.se/robotar/rb-302/
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Re: SAAB J-21...Anti-shipping/Anti-Kraken strike
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2024, 07:10:11 AM »
Most Excellent  :smiley:

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Re: SAAB J-21...Anti-shipping/Anti-Kraken strike
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2024, 12:58:56 AM »
 :smiley:
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Re: SAAB J-21...Anti-shipping/Anti-Kraken strike
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2024, 05:03:58 AM »
Looking good! , love the camo  :smiley: :smiley:

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Re: SAAB J-21...Anti-shipping/Anti-Kraken strike
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2024, 11:15:19 PM »
The main thing about the Rb 302, though, was that it was purely a test vehicle. Rb 302 was a scale-model (in 1/125) for testing the aerodynamic shape and operational concept for the full-sized Rb 303 anti-shipping missile.

-- https://robotmuseum.se/robotar/rb-302/



1/125? :icon_surprised:

How big was the Rb 303 meant to be? :-\

You could put a crew in & launch a Moon shot with it! :o


Oh, this is better! :D
Quote from: robotmuseum.se
For object 303, experimental robot 302 was produced in scale 1:1.25.
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Re: SAAB J-21...Anti-shipping/Anti-Kraken strike
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2024, 02:08:57 AM »
... How big was the Rb 303 meant to be? :-\ ...

Nailed!  :-[
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Re: SAAB J-21...Anti-shipping/Anti-Kraken strike
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2024, 10:12:21 AM »
Fantastic job on the J-21 camo. The rockets look great, too; I love the cranked wings (or whatever they're called)

Offline Dr. YoKai

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Re: SAAB J-21...Anti-shipping/Anti-Kraken strike
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2024, 12:52:17 AM »
 Thanks for comments and compliments, colleagues!
 
 backstory: With the increasing tensions in Europe after the end of the Second World War, the Swedish High Command became concerned about Soviet Naval units closing off the Baltic with a combination of fast attack craft and the new Sverdlov cruisers. While budget restraints, especially during the period of Sweden's secret nuclear program, would inhibit sufficient funding for new warship construction, members of the Kustartilleriet  suggested that airpower could be something of an equalizer. Heavy guided anti-ship missiles were still a few years in the future, but with the rapid development of the J 29, the now-surplus J-21 and J-21r could be adapted as a stop gap anti-shipping force.
  In 1950, forty of the final production J-21A3 series were transferred to the island of Gotland, and began training pilots in surface attack techniques. While the threat of another European war remained in potential, another threat would emerge in the early nineteen fifties that was
horribly real: Kraken. Though the British Royal Navy would successfully counter the monsters in the North sea and North Atlantic, these by-products of Neu Atlantis-Nihon's horrible biological experiments* would decimate first the fishing industry in the Baltic, and as the creatures grew rapidly in size during the early 'fifties, larger commercial vessels as well. The successful development of the  pansarskydd/antikraken raket would prove vital to curbing the menace. The later J-21r was also adapted to the work, some fifty eventually being transferred to
the Kustartilleriet in 1953, where they would serve alongside their older siblings until the last Kraken was dispatched during its attack on Malmö in 1961. Below, and image of a pair of J-21r's attacking a Kraken off the city of Oxelösund in 1958.
j21r-rockets by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr

* See The Secret World War, 1947-1958: A report to the Supreme Allied Commander Europe by Clark Yo jr. (GPO 1965), and The Horrors I was Not Responsible for by Wen Yo. (University of the Southern Arctic Press, 1977)

many thanks again to all and in particular our fearless leader, Greg, for providing the image I so hideously modified for my own nefarious ends.

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Re: SAAB J-21...Anti-shipping/Anti-Kraken strike
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2024, 08:53:11 AM »
That's a really sharp build!
The Kraken Wars, something I will look into!

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Re: SAAB J-21...Anti-shipping/Anti-Kraken strike
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2024, 03:28:56 PM »
 Loving it!  ;D
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