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Offline Kerick

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Junkyard Dog
« on: June 30, 2024, 01:00:43 PM »
Many of the folks here have noticed, I'm not much of a treadhead. 1/72nd scale jets are my usual subject. But when I do build something with tracks, it can get pretty weird. I was rummaging through the stash a week or so ago and came across a bunch of stuff given to me by the good hearted Mr Fontaine. I became possessed by the turretless Trumpeter Brazilian EE-T2 tank plus all the other parts of every description included in this package. Being somewhat inspired by the IDF Puma and Nagmachon APCs I started to brainstorm and assemble something out of all this. This has been mentioned in my blog but I suppose its time to start an actual thread.
Let's start with the obligatory instructions and parts shots.





I added a stiffener down the middle of the upper hull as the engine area had separate side panels and the top deck had become bent. I also closed up the drivers hatch as the periscopes were behind the hatch which didn't seem to make sense.



Since the Nagmachon



And the Puma



Were covered in ERA panels I decided to copy some from the Italeri M60 Blazer kit that was also in the stash. I didn't want to strip the Blazer of the ERA parts in case I ever wanted to build it OOB so I got down off the shelf the Aluminite casting kit I had bought many years ago. The two part casting resin was beyond saving but after what seemed like an hour of stirring the silicone mold material looked usable. I couldn't believe I got a pretty good silicone mold out of it.



After a test cast using UV casting resin I got this nice little part.



No mold release agent required and it came out perfectly so I went to town on ERA production.



I was able to do this outdoors in the shade and place the filled mold out in the sun for a few minutes to cure. In bright sun light curing is almost instant.

I've been working on the upper structure that is placed on the tank hull. The IDF used their Centurion tanks minus the turret but since this is a vehicle made out of every spare part that could be laying around this vehicle will be quite the junkyard dog. I had a base for the stand for a ship model laying around for a long time so it became the basis for the doghouse. Nice and square with a little bit of slope to the sides. I glued whatever armor looking parts I had to the sides for visual interest but then realized it will probably all be covered by the ERA blocks. Oh well, this stuff was just laying around anyway.
Here's what it looks like with an M48 cupola and a rear hatch made from a Bradley back door.





This is another option with Stryker hatches and an M113 engine cover with some other piece I don't recognize. This combo would probably get an M151 remote weapon system.







Here's a hatch from a Bradley driver's compartment that might get transplanted.



I'm also going to add an M9 dozer blade too.



So tell what you folks think of the doghouse arraignments. I might save the M48 cupola for my M41 Walker Bulldog assault gun conversion. Paint scheme is completely up in the air right now.

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2024, 01:31:21 PM »
Hi Ken.  Nice to see you putting those discarded parts and pieces to good use!  I forgot what that Osorio hull looked like as it has been so long since I last held it in my hands.  :smiley:

Something to consider for the position of that Bradley driver's hatch you have placed at the front of the hull.  Why not turn it sideways?  With the flat side up against the raised roof area directly behind the hatch?  This would have the hatch opening to the left and all you would need to do is build a hinge for the thing.  It would also address the geometry restrictions that the raised roof section creates for an open hatch that would conflict with the raised roof area unless it opens to the side. 
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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2024, 01:34:31 AM »
Hi Ken.  Nice to see you putting those discarded parts and pieces to good use!  I forgot what that Osorio hull looked like as it has been so long since I last held it in my hands.  :smiley:

Something to consider for the position of that Bradley driver's hatch you have placed at the front of the hull.  Why not turn it sideways?  With the flat side up against the raised roof area directly behind the hatch?  This would have the hatch opening to the left and all you would need to do is build a hinge for the thing.  It would also address the geometry restrictions that the raised roof section creates for an open hatch that would conflict with the raised roof area unless it opens to the side.

That’s a good idea! I was considering cutting out the drivers position from the Bradley upper hull and using that to build the drivers position. That still might work even when sideways. I was also thinking of adjusting the suspension to give a nose down position with the M9 dozer blade in place.
Any thoughts from anyone concerning paint scheme will be appreciated.

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2024, 06:27:26 AM »
A very cool looking project  :smiley:

... Something to consider for the position of that Bradley driver's hatch you have placed at the front of the hull.  Why not turn it sideways? ...

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2024, 08:09:22 AM »
I also have a commanders hatch from a late model Jumbo Sherman. Not as overbearing as the M48 stuff.  I think I remember some pics of a Nagmachon or a Puma with something like that. Thanks for the sideways Bradley hatch suggestion. That’s a great idea.

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2024, 09:45:55 AM »
 
That’s a good idea! I was considering cutting out the drivers position from the Bradley upper hull and using that to build the drivers position. That still might work even when sideways. I was also thinking of adjusting the suspension to give a nose down position with the M9 dozer blade in place.
Any thoughts from anyone concerning paint scheme will be appreciated.

The Bradley hatch for the driver looks good - maybe extend an upper glacis at the same height all the way to the right side of the hull?

As for it's finish, if it's meant for Mech companies that are part of EE T2 battalions then it does cry out of something other than plain khaki.

I could see Venezuela as a potential problem, so what's appropriate for that terrain?



https://militarymatters.online/defense-news/brazilian-army-announces-requirements-for-new-tank/

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2024, 11:22:27 AM »
A quick look showed different Brazilian vehicles with different schemes. Solid OD green, NATO pattern truck, green and brown and green and black. The green and brown was interesting. Some small black accents might help. No rush yet.

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2024, 01:08:59 PM »
I have the drivers hatch installed and the doghouse almost ready. The hatch problems are solved by keeping it simple. Two Stryker hatches and the rear hatch from an early Bradley. I’m thinking about some sort of shields for the gunners. Once again, keep it simple.

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2024, 11:41:46 AM »
Here's a couple of pics of the progress so far.
This has the Bradley driver's hatched all glued down.





The doghouse and hatches are glued in place.



Now I need something to cover that little hole. I have some Rust-oleum Teracotta spray paint that makes a great no slip texture for 1/35th scale. I've used it before on armor vehicles and it looks good. Then road wheels etc.

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2024, 03:07:02 AM »
Interesting
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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2024, 06:17:28 AM »
Excellent choice on using the Bradley hatch for the crew compartment Ken.  The Stryker hatches also appear to be an excellent choice.  Bless AFV Club for making those bits and pieces so readily available in their Stryker upgrade kits. 
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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2024, 02:38:56 PM »
I’ve got the M151 Remote Weapon System as a separate kit and it comes with the hatches plus the entire sprues including the wheels. No tires unfortunately.

Making some progress day by day. Yard work is getting in the way somewhat.
Question for the group. How do real tanks have those massive side skirts that are everywhere today attached? Are they just welded to something or are there some type of supports or hangers? These things must weigh tons so it must be substantial.

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2024, 10:05:35 PM »
I’ve got the M151 Remote Weapon System as a separate kit and it comes with the hatches plus the entire sprues including the wheels. No tires unfortunately.

Making some progress day by day. Yard work is getting in the way somewhat.
Question for the group. How do real tanks have those massive side skirts that are everywhere today attached? Are they just welded to something or are there some type of supports or hangers? These things must weigh tons so it must be substantial.
That was how I managed to get enough Stryker wheels to modify my Glencoe M274 Mule wheels was because of all the extra parts in those M151 RWS kits. 
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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2024, 09:57:58 AM »
I masked off and sprayed the terra cotta paint for non slip surface today. Kooky thing was no matter how much I shook the can it only sprayed when upside down! And I switched out the nozzle for a new one. I’ll take the tape off tonight and post some pics tomorrow.

I found a pic of the EE-T1 prototype in the MERDC four color scheme. It’s a possibility. The T2 prototype was painted sand when they were trying to sell the type to the Saudis.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2024, 01:36:30 PM by Kerick »

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2024, 01:27:57 PM »
Well it is tomorrow now so here are the latest pics.

This is what that the terra cotta paint looks like. Its quite the rusty red but that won't matter.



With the tape off.

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I stole some mud flaps from a Bradley. They shouldn't leave those things parked just anywhere.



I stole some M48 headlights too. Just doesn't look right.



These are the kit ones. They don't look right either.



I'll scrape the bottom of the junk box and see what else might be in there.
I should work on painting up the road wheels but I think building some side skirts will be more fun!
I have a plan for front mudflaps too. I'll see how well that works. I found a pic of the EE-T1 prototype in the MERDOC four color scheme. It’s a possibility. Of course I'll have to change that up a little. I looked up these patterns and there is one for a tropical region. More to consider.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2024, 01:39:35 PM by Kerick »

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2024, 03:03:46 PM »
Great kit-bash and paint.  Keep going.  :smiley:

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2024, 08:08:09 AM »
Driver needs a vision block to his left ... unless he doesn't want to know what's going on that side.  Great bash , keep going :smiley:

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2024, 10:06:36 AM »
Looks great so far and the anti-slip came out great!

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2024, 03:44:23 PM »
I finished the ERA blocks today. Pics to follow. I think it came out pretty good. I cast enough UV resin copies that I was able to pick through and use the parts that came out the best. My biggest problem was self induced by overfilling the mold. Since it’s crystal clear resin it can be hard to tell when it full. Sanding off the excess turned into a real PITA.

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2024, 10:25:21 AM »
Here's the ERA blocks in place. Worked out pretty good.









Time for some primer. I'm going to look into that MERDC tropical pattern some more.

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2024, 10:07:43 PM »
Shouldn't this be in the "Physical Models" forum instead of "Ideas & Inspiration"..?

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2024, 12:26:17 AM »
You’re right. I obviously didn’t look well enough when I started this. Mods feel free if you think it necessary.

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2024, 10:16:33 PM »
Thanks for the move!
I’ve been working on the side skirts. The front portion will be Challenger style while the rear will be a little Nagmachon style.
I bought some 3mm and 6mm Tamiya masking tape to try some digital camo. Paint colors will be Model Master from what I have in the paint drawer. Pray for me……
« Last Edit: July 10, 2024, 10:56:53 PM by Kerick »

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Re: Junkyard Dog
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2024, 04:05:43 AM »
More I look at this the more interesting it becomes.   :smiley:   Inspires me for a wanna build of kit sitting in stash for years.

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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2024, 05:29:12 AM »
More I look at this the more interesting it becomes.   :smiley:   Inspires me for a wanna build of kit sitting in stash for years.

Go for it!
Strange how this just grabbed my imagination. I’ve really been obsessed with it. Now if I can get through the paint stage.