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General Category => Market Place => Looking for Kits, Parts, and Decals => Topic started by: The Big Gimper on November 23, 2014, 09:19:22 PM

Title: LF: 1/72 F-104J/S Under fuselage AIM-9 dual launcher assembly
Post by: The Big Gimper on November 23, 2014, 09:19:22 PM
In anticipation of the arrival of my two 1/72 EWR VJ-101

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/EWR_VJ_101_in_1964.jpg)

I'd like to source the under fuselage AIM-9 dual launcher assembly which was found only on the F-104J and F-104S. To the best of my research, the only kits that had these extra bits are the Hasegawa F-104J or S and the Revell F-104G. If you have these kits and are willing to part this these items, drop me a line.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Lockheed_F-104S_ASA-M_Starfighter,_Italy_-_Air_Force_JP6990065.jpg)

(http://www.afwing.com/images/f104/f104j.JPG)

Thank you
Title: Re: LF: 1/72 F-104J/S Under fuselage AIM-9 dual launcher assembly
Post by: Kerick on November 23, 2014, 11:44:11 PM
Where would a person hang the extra fuel tanks?
Title: Re: LF: 1/72 F-104J/S Under fuselage AIM-9 dual launcher assembly
Post by: The Big Gimper on November 24, 2014, 01:27:28 AM
Where would a person hang the extra fuel tanks?

Off the wings a-la F-104. Once I get the kits, I will assess whether larger wings can be substituted.
Title: Re: LF: 1/72 F-104J/S Under fuselage AIM-9 dual launcher assembly
Post by: elmayerle on November 24, 2014, 01:33:39 AM
I'd suggest over-the-wing drop tank placement, as on the Lightning.  Under-the-wing is going to leave you most vulnerable to hot exhaust "splash", not a good think for flammables.
Title: Re: LF: 1/72 F-104J/S Under fuselage AIM-9 dual launcher assembly
Post by: The Big Gimper on November 24, 2014, 02:12:22 AM
I like that idea. Would existing F-104 drop tanks be aerodynamically suitable for an over-the-wing installation?
Title: Re: LF: 1/72 F-104J/S Under fuselage AIM-9 dual launcher assembly
Post by: Weaver on November 24, 2014, 02:41:25 AM
I'd suggest over-the-wing drop tank placement, as on the Lightning.  Under-the-wing is going to leave you most vulnerable to hot exhaust "splash", not a good think for flammables.

Harriers routinely operate with underwing drop tanks: why would this be worse?
Title: Re: LF: 1/72 F-104J/S Under fuselage AIM-9 dual launcher assembly
Post by: elmayerle on November 24, 2014, 02:46:22 AM
I'd suggest over-the-wing drop tank placement, as on the Lightning.  Under-the-wing is going to leave you most vulnerable to hot exhaust "splash", not a good think for flammables.

Harriers routinely operate with underwing drop tanks: why would this be worse?
Harriers at least have the cold flow from the forward nozzles to provide some shield, the VJ-101C would be using afterburners for v/stol operations, creating a much hotter and energetic flow.
Title: Re: LF: 1/72 F-104J/S Under fuselage AIM-9 dual launcher assembly
Post by: elmayerle on November 24, 2014, 02:47:27 AM
I like that idea. Would existing F-104 drop tanks be aerodynamically suitable for an over-the-wing installation?
With careful orientation to flow, you don't want them tilted up or to the side, I don't see why not  You might look at essentially inverting the F-104 drop tanks as a starting point, pylons might need "tweaking" to align the tank centerline with the aircraft centerline.