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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: The Big Gimper on November 21, 2013, 09:53:34 PM

Title: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: The Big Gimper on November 21, 2013, 09:53:34 PM
(http://www.flightglobal.com/assets/getasset.aspx?itemid=53369)

(http://www.flightglobal.com/assets/getasset.aspx?itemid=53370)

(http://cmsimg.defensenews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=M5&Date=20131112&Category=DEFREG01&ArtNo=311120028&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&First-RAF-Rivet-Joint-Lands-Waddington)

(http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/mt/flightglobalweb/blogs//the-dewline/2013/07/10/RC-135W%20560.jpg)

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/pictures-first-raf-rivet-joint-aircraft-arrives-in-uk-392875/ (http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/pictures-first-raf-rivet-joint-aircraft-arrives-in-uk-392875/)

http://www.defensenews.com/article/20131112/DEFREG01/311120028/ (http://www.defensenews.com/article/20131112/DEFREG01/311120028/)
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 21, 2013, 10:12:43 PM
Very smart but SO wrong!  :icon_sueno:
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: kitnut617 on November 21, 2013, 11:13:34 PM
Now I know what my AMT kit will end up like, got some CFM 56 engines coming so just need a decal set now --
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 22, 2013, 02:21:51 AM
I want to see one in Hemp...
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: upnorth on November 22, 2013, 02:56:13 AM
I want to see one in Hemp...

Ditto!  :)
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 22, 2013, 03:03:02 AM
Having the 'Royal Air Force' painted on the grey bit looks odd to me, but then I was brought up at a time when they had 'Royal Air Force Transport Command' painted on the white bit. I can't think of another RAF aircraft that has its ownership painted that prominently in this day and age.
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: Litvyak on November 22, 2013, 08:42:36 AM
I can't think of another RAF aircraft that has its ownership painted that prominently in this day and age.

And in USAF standard lettering instead of RAF standard, at that.
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: The Big Gimper on November 22, 2013, 09:29:01 AM
I can't think of another RAF aircraft that has its ownership painted that prominently in this day and age.

And in USAF standard lettering instead of RAF standard, at that.

Could it be a temporary marking?
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on November 22, 2013, 09:46:26 AM
So what are the chances of putting the Rivet Joint pieces on a Nimrod in similar markings? 
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 22, 2013, 03:45:37 PM
I can't think of another RAF aircraft that has its ownership painted that prominently in this day and age.

And in USAF standard lettering instead of RAF standard, at that.

Could it be a temporary marking?

Depends how their Airships think I suspect. Similar things have happened before with US supplied aircraft where they got the colours not quite right, something on the RAF/RN Phantoms springs to mind and they were re-painted over here.

I like the idea of the cheek bulges and a long nose grafted onto a Nimrod, but can you get the bits as a conversion kit? IIRC I have both kits in The Loft too. :)
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: The Big Gimper on November 22, 2013, 07:22:53 PM
I can't think of another RAF aircraft that has its ownership painted that prominently in this day and age.


And in USAF standard lettering instead of RAF standard, at that.


Could it be a temporary marking?


Depends how their Airships think I suspect. Similar things have happened before with US supplied aircraft where they got the colours not quite right, something on the RAF/RN Phantoms springs to mind and they were re-painted over here.

I like the idea of the cheek bulges and a long nose grafted onto a Nimrod, but can you get the bits as a conversion kit? IIRC I have both kits in The Loft too. :)


Mark @ Wolfpak decals (http://millcreekconsultants.com/WolfPak_home.html) / Spectre resins used to have the cheeks in 1/72 (http://millcreekconsultants.com/sitebuilder/images/cheek_packaging-203x359.jpg).

(http://millcreekconsultants.com/sitebuilder/images/cheek_packaging-203x359.jpg)

He is a good guy. Ping him? Maybe he can re-start production? I'd take a pair.
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: Weaver on November 22, 2013, 08:11:56 PM
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :icon_twisted: (personal..... ;))

It's a wierd colour scheme all right: I wonder why the fin flash is so low and small? It's not like the rest of it is particularly low-vis............. ???
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 22, 2013, 09:44:55 PM
I hope the Rivet Joint crews don't get mixed up if they have to fly a Sentry for a while, they'll bang their heads when they try to get in as the doors are in different places. :)

And I bet the Engineering section won't be happy either, they'll be carrying lots of spares that LOOK as if they might fit, but probably won't.
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: kitnut617 on November 22, 2013, 10:49:45 PM
So what are the chances of putting the Rivet Joint pieces on a Nimrod in similar markings?

I like your thinking ---

I suspect though, the cheek bulges would interfer with the airflow into the engine air intakes, they are kinda close to the fuselage -- 

But I wouldn't mind getting a couple of pairs of those cheeks too, got an idea for a 737 poor-mans elint
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 23, 2013, 05:52:36 AM
Those 'cheek things' are pretty darn huge and stick out a lot, which I know from personal experience but I'm not sure I'm allowed to say why......

They might be a bit TOO big for a 737 unless it's a very late model.

Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: kitnut617 on November 23, 2013, 06:18:27 AM
One of the long fuselage versions is what I was thinking Kit.
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 23, 2013, 08:29:15 AM
That should work then, they're almost the same length as a 707/C-135 anyway :)
Title: Re: PICTURES: First RAF Rivet Joint aircraft arrives in UK
Post by: elmayerle on November 23, 2013, 04:06:05 PM
Considering that the company that does the conversions, L-3 Integrated Systems of Greenville, TX also has worked on the BBJ (at their Waco, TX facility), they could probably do the conversion of a 737-900 right smartly..  Note, Waco also does EP-3E conversions (worked there from early 2000 to August of 2002).