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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: The Big Gimper on October 29, 2013, 07:14:23 AM

Title: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: The Big Gimper on October 29, 2013, 07:14:23 AM
Found this on another forum:

CF-XX Super Arrow Stealth Interceptor concept aircraft (http://www.hooler.com/superarrow/index.html)

(http://www.hooler.com/superarrow/Gallery/_B7.jpg)
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: jcf on October 29, 2013, 07:35:28 AM
... and carrying liquified air it could exceed 250,000 feet ... and with a booster rocket on the belly
it could go orbital ... and we can build it for less than a Ford Ka.

Otay, the last was mine, but, oy vey, do these folks actually believe their own crap?

... and this from the front page:
So far this project has been making amazing progress. We have been contacted by an X-Plane technologist who has been transferring her design into the X-Plane Simulator and we have had outstanding results with a top end speed of Mach 5.1 using the Pratt & Whitney F-135 engines.

Erm, okey-dokey, it works in a video game, so it must be a really good design.  :-\

Sorry folks, the Arrow is just like the Norwegian Blue, dead, dead, dead.

That website should be renamed Return of the Living Dead Arrow, rather than Super Arrow.  :icon_zombie:
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: Queeg on October 29, 2013, 09:13:25 AM
Very nice looking platform, but I have to agree with Jeff after browsing through the website. Most Defense company/contractor ads have a fair amount of Hyperbole about them but this is a little on the thick side. I'm not sure they aren't pulling our legs with some of it to be honest ...... tis sort of joke I'd pull. When and when it delivers you can keep it simple like GE did with an ad published in a 70's MilTech for the GAU-8/Gatling. There was a pic of an A10 and their GAU-8 laying waste to some defenceless and outmatched range hard target and it read simply, "Fist pass kill guaranteed". 
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on October 29, 2013, 09:19:12 AM
I run into people who believe this sort of thing every day. Needless to say, none of them are running major aerospace firms or make governmental policy!  :)

As much as I love the Arrow, this is just silliness.

Alvis 3.1
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: Kerick on October 29, 2013, 10:58:55 AM
I'm sure its by some young folks who are not hampered by the "real world" yet. More power to 'em!
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: taiidantomcat on October 29, 2013, 01:07:43 PM
Very nice looking platform, but I have to agree with Jeff after browsing through the website. Most Defense company/contractor ads have a fair amount of Hyperbole about them but this is a little on the thick side. I'm not sure they aren't pulling our legs with some of it to be honest ...... tis sort of joke I'd pull.

On one hand, the What if? side of me Loves it, great design, always happy to see another aircraft concept, but my real world side says:

These guys aren't even defense contractors and don't deserve even that title. they are dreamers. No different than if we took P-51/F-16/Helicopter there in the top left and actually tried to pass it off as something plausible then posted a bunch of garbage to try and make the case. Mach 5.1? I'm why not mach 58.1? AS long we are making things up, we should go for the gusto.  ;D

So a great exersize in imagination, which we all love or we wouldn't be here. But treating it as anything besides that is a tad insulting to my brain. Its nothing short of delusional on their part.
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: Gingie on October 30, 2013, 02:42:15 AM
"The Chief Designer of the Super Arrow, Joe Green B.FA"

Ah, well, a Bachelor of Fine Arts as the Chief Designer!
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 30, 2013, 02:59:33 AM
I simply ignore most of the crap they post with a smirk and a suppressed giggle.

I do like this part though:  "We are in discussions with a couple Canadian scale modeling companies to produce a 1:72 and 1:48 scale model of the Super Arrow which will be available to the general public for sale later this year"

Will be keeping an eye out for this!
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: jcf on October 30, 2013, 03:09:55 AM
Not so fast, not just any B.FA:
Bachelors Degree in Fine Arts with a speciality in 3D Computer Animation, Visual Effects, Motion Capture and Fine Arts Painting

As I read it a B.FA in FX and Matte painting, the perfect background for creating science-fiction. ;D :icon_fsm:

Now if he had a B.FA in Public Art or Sculpture then I'd be inclined to treat the whole deal
as a pretty good piece of Conceptual/Virtual Performance Art, but, alas they are deadly
serious and lacking in irony, so it is what it appears.
 :icon_zombie:
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: taiidantomcat on October 30, 2013, 03:22:15 AM
I simply ignore most of the crap they post with a smirk and a suppressed giggle.

I do like this part though:  "We are in discussions with a couple Canadian scale modeling companies to produce a 1:72 and 1:48 scale model of the Super Arrow which will be available to the general public for sale later this year"

Will be keeping an eye out for this!

That would be pretty sweet  :)
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on October 30, 2013, 11:30:36 PM
Uhhh, what Canadian Scale Modelling companies? HobbyCraft Canada is the only one I'm aware of that ever produced anything in styrene and they're kaput. Sure, there are loads of great resin companies but that's not exactly mainstream kit sales there.
They've got a facebook page, and anyone who points out their semi-delusional concepts get shouted down pretty quickly. Seems they are grooming hard core "believers".

Egads.

Arrows are on the edge of being the Elvis/Bigfoot/UFO type of silliness. It's a shame, since the whole saga is pretty interesting without all the lunatic conspiracy stuff tossed in as well.

Alvis 3.1
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: Daryl J. on October 31, 2013, 01:00:51 AM
HC-Canada is no more?  :(
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: Litvyak on October 31, 2013, 01:21:06 AM
Hobbycraft just released the new-tool CF-105 in 1/72... as I understand it, it's now part of the group that runs Rapido Trains (who also seem to be specialising in Canadian subjects like the old CN Turbotrain... and that model is quite gorgeous!).
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: Gingie on October 31, 2013, 01:39:39 AM
Hobbycraft Canada is still around...

http://www.hobbycraftcanada.com/hobbycraftcanada/Model_Kit_Listing.html (http://www.hobbycraftcanada.com/hobbycraftcanada/Model_Kit_Listing.html)
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on October 31, 2013, 01:49:08 AM
Arrows are on the edge of being the Elvis/Bigfoot/UFO type of silliness. It's a shame, since the whole saga is pretty interesting without all the lunatic conspiracy stuff tossed in as well.


Alvis' next project: CF-105 Arrow flown by Elvis, maintained by bigfoot, and fitted with alien technology
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: Dr. YoKai on October 31, 2013, 02:42:52 AM
 Since we're on the subject, has anybody seen the made-for-TV miniseries The Arrow about the original? I gather Dan Ackroyd starred in it.
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: jcf on October 31, 2013, 02:49:20 AM
The CBC miniseries is pretty bad and is full of multiple distortions of history
in service of the myth.
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: kitnut617 on October 31, 2013, 03:44:43 AM
The CBC miniseries is pretty bad and is full of multiple distortions of history
in service of the myth.

Beat me to that Jon ---
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: Litvyak on October 31, 2013, 06:00:16 AM
Bah, it was a fun watch.
Title: Re: CF-XX Super Arrow
Post by: Dr. YoKai on November 01, 2013, 05:46:37 AM
 Well, I'll keep all that in mind - I'd been wanting to watch it for years ( in part in hopes there would be some good miniatures work in it ) and just discovered that the thing entire is on Youtube.