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Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => Scandinavian GB => Topic started by: MAT on August 23, 2024, 07:54:09 PM

Title: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on August 23, 2024, 07:54:09 PM
In the 1950s and 1960s SAAB were engaged in the development of a future fighter/attack plane. The were no end to the designers imagination. From a ultra small single seater to a multi engined mini B-58 - everything was tested. On the list was also a VTOL attack plane - the Projekt 1500-01, based on the Rolls-Royce Pegasus engine of the Harrier. It never went beyond the drawing board.

But what if!

Flygvapnets new VTOL attack plane entered service in 1974 as the A 38 Järven (the wolverine) with Flygflottilj F6 at Karlsborg Air Base. In the following years it was engaged in close support operations with the swedish army and to that purpose had several small detachment based in clearings of the forests of Central Sweden.

My build will be based on a Harrier GR.7 kit from Mister Craft. That kit was acquired by pure accident and is in my opinion a waste of money - way below current standard. It was condemned to be stored in eternal oblivion in a corner of deep darkness. But with a lot cutting, swearing and good old nordic "sejd" it might be turned into something usefull.

Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Claymore on August 24, 2024, 12:45:30 AM
Go for it!  :smiley:
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 24, 2024, 01:03:23 AM
This should be good
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on August 24, 2024, 01:05:50 AM
Your description of the kit was too kind.  :smiley: 

What are your plans for the delta wings?  Sourced from another kit or crafted from plastic card stock? 
A delta wing Harrier clone is certainly an interesting subject. 

Good luck!
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: apophenia on August 24, 2024, 03:21:29 AM
This is gonna be good   :smiley:

And love your Järven name too!  As Jeff's tagline points out: "'Research shows wolverines don't like to be teased"  ;D
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Buzzbomb on August 24, 2024, 06:58:07 AM
Oh very nice plan.. and great use of what sounds like a fairly ordinary kit.
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on September 03, 2024, 10:24:37 PM
By using the dimensions of the Pegasus engine I have made a 1/72 scale drawing of the Projekt 1500-01. Comparing it to the kits fuselage it turns out, that the fuselage of the Järven was at bit longer. So - CUT
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Buzzbomb on September 04, 2024, 06:11:35 AM
Ahhh, the satisfying sound of the razor saw  :smiley:
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on September 04, 2024, 04:39:14 PM
CUT - CUT -CUT. What used to be an airplane kit is now a 3-d puzzle
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Old Wombat on September 04, 2024, 11:32:37 PM
I always thought model kits were 3D puzzles. :-\
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 05, 2024, 01:39:38 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Claymore on September 06, 2024, 03:48:04 PM
CUT - CUT -CUT. What used to be an airplane kit is now a 3-d puzzle

Now all you need to do is randomly jumble up all the parts and, ta-da, job done!  ;D
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: The Rat on September 07, 2024, 12:59:05 AM
Love this already!  ;)
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on September 07, 2024, 06:20:29 PM
CUT - CUT -CUT. What used to be an airplane kit is now a 3-d puzzle

Now all you need to do is randomly jumble up all the parts and, ta-da, job done!  ;D

Ta-Da

The parts have been jumbled up and here is the result. The fuselage have been extended and the front exhausts from the Pegasus engine have been lowered as the front and rear exhausts were in line on Järven.
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Claymore on September 07, 2024, 09:41:31 PM
Awesome :smiley:!
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: apophenia on September 08, 2024, 05:51:52 AM
Awesome :smiley:!

Indeed! And genuinely a 3D jigsaw puzzle  :smiley:
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Buzzbomb on September 08, 2024, 07:09:14 AM
Transformation is proceeding  :smiley:
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on September 18, 2024, 09:42:26 PM
Most of the fuselage is now glued together and a lot PSR have been done.

Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on September 18, 2024, 09:44:08 PM
And have started thinking about wings and tail

Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Old Wombat on September 18, 2024, 09:45:39 PM
There's so much putty & stuff on there it almost looks like it's been carved from a block of wood! ;D
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Dr. YoKai on September 18, 2024, 10:47:04 PM
There's so much putty & stuff on there it almost looks like it's been carved from a block of wood! ;D

I often think a lot of my own builds are more akin to sculpting than engineering. I think MAT is combining the best of both. Should be pretty neat.
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: finsrin on September 18, 2024, 11:06:24 PM
Commendable project.  Do proceed.  :smiley:
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 19, 2024, 12:54:27 AM
Looking good
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Claymore on September 19, 2024, 01:48:27 AM
 :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Buzzbomb on September 19, 2024, 08:15:52 AM
Very different form, moving nicely
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Kerick on September 19, 2024, 12:05:14 PM
There's so much putty & stuff on there it almost looks like it's been carved from a block of wood! ;D

I often think a lot of my own builds are more akin to sculpting than engineering. I think MAT is combining the best of both. Should be pretty neat.

I second that!
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on October 25, 2024, 01:44:26 AM
After the first round of PSR, the fuselage was painted in one colour to show where it needs more putty or more sanding. It's almost done.
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on October 25, 2024, 05:34:07 PM
Its time to build the front fuselage of Järven. Its made up of  pieces found on my scrap yard. The front of a MiG-23, that donated its swing wings to a Messerschmitt P.1102/5, and a cut down radar nose of a F-4D Phantom.
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Kerick on October 25, 2024, 10:58:57 PM
Kitbashing at it finest!! On to the splinter pattern paint scheme!  :o ;)
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: apophenia on October 28, 2024, 05:02:14 AM
Kitbashing at it finest!! ...

Indeed! And that cut-down Phantom radome has really caught the 'personality' of Projekt 1500-01  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Buzzbomb on October 28, 2024, 06:03:20 AM
Nice parts usage.. it will come together
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on October 28, 2024, 05:15:02 PM
Kitbashing at it finest!! On to the splinter pattern paint scheme!  :o ;)

At the moment I'm leaning towards the blue/green scheme of the SAAB 105 - another low flying plane of Flygvapnet
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 28, 2024, 05:40:45 PM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: apophenia on October 29, 2024, 05:13:29 AM
At the moment I'm leaning towards the blue/green scheme of the SAAB 105 - another low flying plane of Flygvapnet

The is a nice-looking scheme! And one heck of a lot easier to apply than Swedish splinter, I should think.
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on October 30, 2024, 01:49:43 AM
At the moment I'm leaning towards the blue/green scheme of the SAAB 105 - another low flying plane of Flygvapnet

The is a nice-looking scheme! And one heck of a lot easier to apply than Swedish splinter, I should think.

One day I'll plunge into the splinter camouflage. I have a SK 37E Stör-Viggen lined up for that.
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on October 30, 2024, 01:52:34 AM
Time to get the wings done. They a made up of plasticcard, the wingtips of a Gloster Javelin (that became a Javelin PR.11) and lots of putty.
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: apophenia on October 30, 2024, 06:04:58 AM
Looking good!

... and lots of putty.

Woah ... I wasn't expecting that!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on October 30, 2024, 06:49:43 PM
Progress! The front fuselage have now been glued to the rest of the fuselage. Almost there - some PSR will do the rest.
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Buzzbomb on October 31, 2024, 05:53:31 AM
Taking shape, bung on some wings and stuff and Done  ;D
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: apophenia on November 01, 2024, 10:01:57 AM
Looking good, MAT!  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on November 05, 2024, 06:17:09 PM
Wings glued to the fuselage. Järven is comming into shape but still some PSR ahead.
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Frank3k on November 06, 2024, 12:33:27 AM
The Järven has a great shape!
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: apophenia on November 07, 2024, 04:07:47 AM
The Järven has a great shape!

It does indeed! Are those Järven's intakes from the original Harrier kit?
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on November 07, 2024, 05:51:38 AM
The Järven has a great shape!

It does indeed! Are those Järven's intakes from the original Harrier kit?
The intakes are from the original Mister kit Harrier. Slightly modified
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Buzzbomb on November 07, 2024, 11:21:54 AM
Lovely work. Now I really, really like the shape
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Kerick on November 07, 2024, 12:08:46 PM
Can’t wait to see paint on this!
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: finsrin on November 07, 2024, 07:05:00 PM
Off to super duper start  :smiley:
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on November 08, 2024, 02:37:27 AM
Fuselage and tailfin united. Ahead a paintjob is waiting.
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on November 09, 2024, 04:46:34 PM
Here comes the paint
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Dr. YoKai on November 11, 2024, 01:03:04 AM
Really like how the shape is coming together. I find myself wanting to use a similar profile for something sans the vertical tail.
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: apophenia on November 11, 2024, 04:02:31 AM
Really like how the shape is coming together...

Me too! It is amazing how well those delta wings hide most of the residual Harrier DNA  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on November 17, 2024, 03:33:50 AM
Decals comming on.
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 18, 2024, 12:29:40 AM
Looking good
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Buzzbomb on November 19, 2024, 04:49:57 AM
Very nice...  :smiley:
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: MAT on December 05, 2024, 04:07:07 AM
Finally done
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on December 05, 2024, 04:45:14 AM
Nice! 
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 06, 2024, 01:21:40 AM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: apophenia on December 06, 2024, 04:40:10 AM
Very nice!  :smiley:

And what a business-like bruiser of an airplane ... makes the Harrier look positively dainty by comparison  ;D
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: Robomog on December 08, 2024, 06:56:00 PM
Fine piece of plastic surgery, and a brilliant paint job.  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Mog
>^-.-^<
Title: Re: SAAB Projekt 1500-01 - A 38 Järven
Post by: finsrin on December 09, 2024, 05:31:54 AM
Fine piece of plastic surgery, and a brilliant paint job.  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Mog
>^-.-^<

I'm with Robomog and others.  Love the concept too   :-*