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Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => Scandinavian GB => Topic started by: Buzzbomb on August 14, 2024, 04:31:48 PM

Title: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Buzzbomb on August 14, 2024, 04:31:48 PM
Time to get into this GB.
Again it was a lot of box removal and replacement.
First up started with a Stryker but that sort of has all the platforms in real life and just a marking change is not really my gig.
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zfgyy2b7kt8pc8vuaxdwc/T62AA_1.JPG?rlkey=y8e07flm4k2scvfcl4ne42fry&st=uoup93ck&raw=1)

So fossicked out a preloved and parts missing Tamiya T-62. It donated the turret to my Hovercraft Tank. So a decent hull.
Also in a box of stuff was the vast majority of the missile mount from the trumpeter SA-6 Gainful, I had used the hull on another build.
So.. lets run with those maybe, so first up some experiments on size and if I do have enough bits
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/k8uyitdya2d7lcagib5pk/T62AA_2.JPG?rlkey=u37hlpbgfv410br5cifyr2zzp&st=bgc8zswb&raw=1)

A short session later and the basic bits are underway.
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/idwv8rt8097nzsq27dfhz/T62AA_3.JPG?rlkey=4zrckyf7ykv2tft4h00dn9338&st=dhkv94o9&raw=1)

Going to go Finland as they have used a lot of Soviet gear so the match up makes some sense with a 70's timeline perhaps.
Lets see if the mojo keeps going.


Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: perttime on August 14, 2024, 05:39:07 PM
I think it would work anytime from 70s to 90s. Maybe even later if the missiles and systems are modernised (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marksman_anti-aircraft_system).

Just yesterday, we were talking with a guy who has some clue about tank tactics in Finland. Apparently foreign tank units, used to fighting in open spaces, can be in trouble at exercises in Finland. There's just not that much open space. Finnish tank formations are trained to use cover, and there's lots of that. Soviet tanks like T-72 were quite good for using cover (trees, small hills, etc) because of their compact size: stay where the enemy cannot hit you and ambush him..
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Claymore on August 15, 2024, 02:36:00 AM
 ;D We may have a generational thing going on!  ;)
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Frank3k on August 15, 2024, 02:44:57 AM
I love the camo on that old T-62 (does everyone have an old Tamiya T-62 built-up?) and the SA-6 look good on it.
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Old Wombat on August 15, 2024, 05:42:46 PM
I love the camo on that old T-62 (does everyone have an old Tamiya T-62 built-up?) and the SA-6 look good on it.

I have one "mostly built" & in dire need of a paint job ... It's only been in that state for ten years, now. :-\
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Dr. YoKai on August 16, 2024, 01:10:40 AM
I love the camo on that old T-62 (does everyone have an old Tamiya T-62 built-up?) and the SA-6 look good on it.

 Not me. My interest in Soviet Armor takes a nose dive (with a couple of exceptions) right after the T-44. Still the Gainfuls do looks sharp, and this should be a nifty build.
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Buzzbomb on August 18, 2024, 06:53:58 AM
Bit of RW happening, but back on the business.

Cobbled up a 3D printed turret mounting to add the missile rails to. Could not find the original SA-6 kit one, but would have been too small for the existing gaping chasm of the turret.
Still some mods need to clear the engine deck and drivers hatch, plus add in some sort of command cupola or similar.

(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xcafo0yguzbpeqdmmwv88/T62AA_4.JPG?rlkey=z6odtr8cjnkac2h8u91gcorka&st=udkcwlgc&raw=1)

The printed version might get replaced by plastic card yet if the clean up process gets too messy.
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: apophenia on August 18, 2024, 10:00:06 AM
Looking good  :smiley:

... The printed version might get replaced by plastic card yet if the clean up process gets too messy.

Elsewhere, someone was commenting on how blasé we're becoming about 3D printed pieces.

For some (like me), this technology remains highly esoteric. But I love the notion that we've (well, you've, really!) reached the point where 3D-printed articles might simply end up acting as 'mules' for plastic card replacements  :-*
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Frank3k on August 18, 2024, 12:38:45 PM
You can glue thin plastic card to the printed version.
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Buzzbomb on August 20, 2024, 10:47:46 AM
Bit of progress, sort of in the zone on this.

First up, the prototyping of the turret form using the 3D printer. Designed on 3D builder on Windows 10, the only thing was the time, each print took about 2 hours on fine settings
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/mx5fkgcd6ryp0yxyrnrp1/T62AA_5.JPG?rlkey=lxtpvu5vf0bcr1fvkkbhbyx7w&st=r8gm59mn&raw=1)

Final version at the "good as it is going to get" stage.
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/u0oc5boidn3w4draky2kj/T62AA_6.JPG?rlkey=ncds2ogf1l37qyqfgzc5cpj47&st=8ki61brd&raw=1)

Rails in travel mode
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/fqlgqqpn03d69qu0v1xpj/T62AA_7.JPG?rlkey=pvqk99fl91jl7j5e0ch8y6q98&st=4xjmktql&raw=1)

And in launch mode... it moves  ;D
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/a58gac69wkcie4srso6kc/T62AA_8.JPG?rlkey=lp6l879tn4nagprj9gbz75xx3&st=sxa7cd1l&raw=1)

Few more bits and greeblies to go on then almost at paint shop time.
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Mig Eater on August 20, 2024, 06:49:04 PM
Looking good :smiley: The combination of old and new with 3D printed and scratch built parts is a good example that 3D printing isn't a replacement for modeling but just another technique we can add to our tool box. 

Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 21, 2024, 01:27:34 AM
Looking good
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Claymore on August 22, 2024, 12:14:32 AM
Very nice!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Buzzbomb on August 23, 2024, 06:31:02 AM
Almost there for all intents and purposes.

Frustratingly some of the kits sprues and bits like the missile hold down clamps and the front guard rail mounts are AWOL, after rummaging through several boxes of spare sprues, known "I will just leave this here and sort it out later" drawers, some bits just cannot be found. Possibly on another of my builds somewhere, who knows.
Got enough to make it work though.

(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yygnujl79hsvvr27jsl47/T62AA_9.JPG?rlkey=oee8mw0blwzji2jxn8dnipa8a&st=nl7l22bv&raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/6r9dxnpzlj8qdvt51satc/T62AA_10.JPG?rlkey=vmikz7cw7vmyudz3dhjpp752n&st=a9c28bf4&raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/p8g7p93chgypdhykr3f6e/T62AA_11.JPG?rlkey=ouionyxazlocj2fwnsbc4i71g&st=ohllaoo3&raw=1)

**** news flash... located enough of the missile hold down bits for the travel support to make it work  :smiley:
Ok that involved tipping an entire parts drawer onto the bench and going through it bit by bit almost.
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Claymore on August 23, 2024, 03:21:11 PM
Very neat and looks right.   :smiley:

Ah yes, the spares box/drawer is almost as frustrating as the singularity carpet that hoovers up any and every vital part that falls into its insidious grasp never to be seen again!  :o
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Buzzbomb on August 27, 2024, 06:50:57 AM
Initial paint work.

Finnish T-55 esque splinter scheme. I figured that it makes sense, well to me anyway, that the splinter scheme follows through this series of MBT chassis

(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/nb9z4mbuqd00jtfdun5wu/T62AA_17.JPG?rlkey=xj3igeo93r12wlv10oekpc9mz&st=eooycedm&raw=1)

Decals underway at the moment, then a touch of weathering.
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Dr. YoKai on August 27, 2024, 07:02:55 AM
Paint looks great! I really like the travel brace, too.
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Claymore on August 27, 2024, 05:50:15 PM
Oh, yes!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Old Wombat on August 27, 2024, 09:18:46 PM
Now we're getting somewhere! 8)
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Buzzbomb on August 30, 2024, 06:33:06 AM
So goodbye Tamiya T-62 with a "forget what brand" BDD conversion set in the Afghan comapaign now it is rebuilt as a Finnish T-62 with SA-6.
Total outlay for the rebuild ? Zero :D . All from bits left over from other builds or that have been reused for other builds, some in stock plastic card plus a bit of 3D printer Design time and some printer filament.
Some generic Finland Decals from the decals box, light weathering and that is is

(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/sv0ihjikjb0juoqqhnk7j/T62AA_18.JPG?rlkey=0omsquxxrvuzb1zfvognsx6in&st=8zxsjim1&raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/rtdgu4d9ghiiem947l5j3/T62AA_19.JPG?rlkey=s9eep8wwgp0g7ekac7ef0rf61&st=d1uutqj7&raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/fujw3ua42p792wa9wssrm/T62AA_20.JPG?rlkey=z1fwq419fyoyox68e8xu65y7a&st=255homlb&raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/e8ux0czn89sah3edg28gx/T62AA_21.JPG?rlkey=glnz953w621lw6i5q9qhj86it&st=vd0rpzjg&raw=1)

Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Old Wombat on August 30, 2024, 08:14:25 PM
Nicely done, BT! :smiley: 8)


And the weathering is nicely subtle! :D

Unlike some builds, which shall remain nameless, it doesn't look like it's driven from Perth to Brisbane via the northern-most route at the end of the Wet Season. ::)
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Robomog on August 30, 2024, 08:35:02 PM
I'm not a treadhead but even I can appreciate a build well done  :smiley: :smiley:

Really looks the business

Mog
>^-.-^<
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: perttime on August 31, 2024, 12:27:47 AM
"Treadhead"? I'm not one either but this looks right.

I wasn't sure about having the roundel front and back but, apparently, at least the front roundel was applied at some time or another.
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Dr. YoKai on August 31, 2024, 06:21:20 AM
Excellent finish!
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Claymore on September 01, 2024, 03:16:52 AM
Tremendous - surprising what can be coaxed out of the spares box!   :-*

As my own build design is set circa the very early stages of Finland's SP SAM development, may I be so bold as to reference your Anti-Air Missile Platform as a logical development in my associated backstory?
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Buzzbomb on September 01, 2024, 07:07:04 AM
Tremendous - surprising what can be coaxed out of the spares box!   :-*

As my own build design is set circa the very early stages of Finland's SP SAM development, may I be so bold as to reference your Anti-Air Missile Platform as a logical development in my associated backstory?
Bold ? Not at all, I consider it an honour.

I generally do not do back stories, not good at them.
Title: Re: Finnish Anti Air Missile Platform
Post by: Claymore on September 01, 2024, 03:03:34 PM
 :smiley: