Beyond The Sprues
Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Aero-space => Topic started by: Robomog on May 05, 2024, 06:51:53 AM
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Hi All
You know I finished one of these recently........
(https://i.imgur.com/HvxmOiZ.jpg)
Which left me one of these........
(https://i.imgur.com/s0aReJi.jpg)
Without a canopy and a nice set of ramjets which I am setting aside for a possible future project.
It came close to going into the Draw of Possibilities, ..................then the brain cells collided.
What if the Russians got the rocket plane to work reliably and started production, then....
What if the factory gets overrun by the Germans including a large number of stored aircraft, and........
What if the Germans decide that the aircraft is still too dangerous to fly safely (this is before the Me163 and before Germany became exceedingly desperate for wonder weapons) , also.......
What if some clever guy suggests turning them into unguided missiles by removing the cockpit, undercarriage and weaponry, then adding a warhead, stabilising Gyro and some rudimentary timers and cutoffs like the V1. But........
What if they decide it needs to be mobile to reduce the chances of it getting destroyed on the ground.
A very tenuous string of events which I'm sure is fatally flawed but this is the basis for this build.
Here's the starting point......
(https://i.imgur.com/DygU8ls.jpg)
The topdecking has been cut back level with the canopy line and filled with sprue sections and fillered over.
(https://i.imgur.com/H99HDw2.jpg)
I've acquired a half track and 88mm gun trailer from my old 1970 something stash with the intention of adapting the trailer as the launcher.
The half track has been cut down to the floor line, I intend to build this back up as an armoured command cab.
That's the story so far, more when it happens
Mog
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Great combo.
Using the 88mm Flak carriage is a terrific idea
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Great combo.
Using the 88mm Flak carriage is a terrific idea
Completely concur. And looking good, 'Mog :smiley:
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For such a small and simple kit, it's really difficult to build. You're off to a good start!
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Thanks guys,
Got some more time at the bench and started creating the launch rail
(https://i.imgur.com/WXo5slq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/c9zzTSA.jpg)
This in turn threw up a problem with the missile, I originally designed it to have a single large booster ( a la F104) but unfortunately this would be below the launch rail and would foul the supports so I have switched to two boosters either side, underneath the tail.
(https://i.imgur.com/Bfy1CmN.jpg)
The tractor is also throwing up some problems in that I intended it to allow the crew to stand up inside but that makes it incredibly tall. I think I will compromise, they will have to crouch much like a personnel carrier.
(https://i.imgur.com/9oUDHyp.jpg)
The picture shows the tractor with Arthur Brain, but he is 1/72 so a bit big for a 00 or 1/87 scale vehicle. Even if I compare it with a proper size figure it's still too high.
Thinks: is this post in the wrong thread as there are more vehicles than aircraft :D
More when it happens
Mog
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If you need to justify where this should go, remember that all of the ground support vehicles are to support the aircraft/missile.
Very innovative on the launcher rail.
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There is a precedent for tall ˝-tracks.
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Thanks guys, I think I've come up with a compromise, more of that soon
In the mean time here's the first mockup of the launcher.
(https://i.imgur.com/swLqSbZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fvkisFD.jpg)
It will probably change a some point but it looks like it will work at the moment
Thanks for looking.........
Mog
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Makes for a fine missile conversion. You are making progress :smiley:
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If you do an unarmoured cab on the launch vehicle it may be tall but it shouldn't be too top heavy.
Although the idea of a battery of three or four launcher-only half-tracks & a command-&-control half-track appeals to me. ;)
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Hmmm. I am intrigued by the project, but the pictures don't seem to be showing up for me.
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They look OK from my end, anybody else having trouble ?
Mog
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Good here
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And looking good here as well, 'Mog :smiley:
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Tady je vše dobré! :smiley:
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Hi all
Hope the picture problem has resolved it self.
The missile is virtually complete and is in the paint shop for its final coat of primer.
I've done some work on the launcher but still have to resolve some problems with the hydraulic ram.
More on those later........
The command half track has made some progress, I have fabricated all the sides now and cut out observation ports and windscreens. They will all have shutters to protect the crew if something goes wrong with the launch. I will model some open and others shut.
(https://i.imgur.com/fCxTtog.jpg)
There will be little detail inside. Mostly around the cab, the seat has been cut down so there is just the drivers position with a bulkhead behined it and an open doorway for access to the back.
More when it happens............
Mog
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Hi all more progress
The Launcher is now assembled and working, I was having trouble with the hydraulic ram, initially I wanted it to push at an angle using the gun stanchion as a base, but this proved unworkable and I had to have it vertical.
The next problem was how to connect it to the launch ramp. I wanted it to raise and lower rather than be fixed.
(https://i.imgur.com/axdKmux.jpg)
In the end I used a small piece of rod and tube to make a moving joint that was glued (very carefully) to some spacers
The end of the ram was then glued to the tube joint ( again very carefully) when the launch rail mechanism was assembled.
(https://i.imgur.com/1geHh9q.jpg)
After leaving things for 24 hours it worked !
(https://i.imgur.com/Fcp5sGj.jpg)
Up
(https://i.imgur.com/6XiZncU.jpg)
Down
There are probably more elegant methods of carrying this out but it works for me. I need to trim and cap the main pivot and also devise a way of painting the assembly without fouling the moving parts.
I have also done some more work on the tractor unit. The sides are on now and moving onto the roof.
(https://i.imgur.com/lZw79EQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SN25FMa.jpg)
More soon........
Thanks for looking
Mog
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You are good launcher and vehicle designer & builder. :smiley:
Please proceed.
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Thanks mate ;)
Onwards and upwards and after much deliberation I have come up with a solution for the main roof.
Essentially I'm going to bevel it in a little to hold a flat roof then set into the roof an observation turret.
Here's a rough mockup.
(https://i.imgur.com/7tgqatz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rINZ9eL.jpg)
The turret has only been placed in position I will sit a lot lower than shown.
The cab roof will be flat with a shallow storage cage above. I'm currently sourcing some Jerry cans, tools, box's and tarpaulins to detail it with.
I have just noticed that there has been a classic reaction between the flexible tracks and the wheels (this truck has been in the loft a looooong time). I'll try and tidy it up as best i can, but I hope you'll forgive me a bit of rough construction.
The missile is nearly finished, it has its top and bottom coat on.
(https://i.imgur.com/48JHl1k.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OyVIipM.jpg)
I'll probably put some camouflage stripes on as well, once that is done all I need to do is attach the boosters to finish off.
It will carry no markings.
More when it happens..........
Mog
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All looks good :smiley:
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Nice! It looks missile-y and not at all like the craptacular original kit.
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Looks like a rocket-powered V-1. ;)
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Thanks chaps :smiley:
Frank3k :- yer not wrong ! Craptacular just about sums it up. I had to do almost as much work getting the bits to fit as doing all the alterations and PSR ;D
Mog
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Having built two of these, I know what you had to go through and your result is fantastic.
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Thanks mate, much appreciated :smiley:
Mog
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All moving along... very good :smiley:
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Pictures are showing up for me now-it looks pretty good. Can't wait to see it on the launcher.
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Thanks guys,
The missile is complete now and the Launcher and tractor are in the paint shop.
Finished pics soon............
Mog
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OK chaps, all done !
Lot and lots of pics on this one so I'm going to do a separate post for each unit so things do not become unweildy
Let's start with the tractor unit.........
(https://i.imgur.com/sRzH9zA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vAx8Tuz.jpg)
Lots of stuff in the roof rack...
(https://i.imgur.com/FpTR70x.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QIIVJIL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gcvhQDH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rzOSWbt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fzNfdB5.jpg)
Tools and jerrycans on the side
(https://i.imgur.com/sa0i6LJ.jpg)
Missile coming next ..........
Mog
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And now the missile
(https://i.imgur.com/ygFfZwH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LKoGX6l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KSX7iii.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ki3TTyk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UkD59iP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VgHM4Uz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jBPASDH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rADaSas.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fQCtU4x.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/G2Adu6N.jpg)
Next the launch carriage.......
Mog
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And now the launch rail
(https://i.imgur.com/BcmNck3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/z8IHkmD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/okFPD9V.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YSpqdan.jpg)
At this point Titch decides to do her routine inspection.....
(https://i.imgur.com/I1RX03r.jpg)
Dude do you think that camoflage is correct ?
(https://i.imgur.com/VyMMhGA.jpg)
Titch, you do not make a very good window !!!
With missile in launch position.......
(https://i.imgur.com/TTuNJU1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wtuIyhr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1HxhmQw.jpg)
Hmmmm Thinking about it you could probably launch the missile with the wheels still attached to the carriage.
Next the complete unit.............
Mog
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And now, at last, the assembled unit.
Apologies for the iffy background this only just fitted in the photo booth ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/VF8w0uy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VvDqalQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/f1hlY71.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VB5rehS.jpg)
Phew ! All done , quite a marathon post this one but a very satisfying whif considering I usually stick with aircraft
All comments and criticisms gratefully accepted, as always
Thanks for looking...........
Mog
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8) :smiley: :smiley:
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Tactical Winnebago is now "Cat Approved?"
Nice little what-if that has all of the necessary bits and pieces.
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Great concept and well executed. :smiley: :smiley:
Ok the cat bit is freaky.
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Tail up, ears forward - I think Titch approves!
I really like the concept and great execution and a good use for those execrable BI-1 kits.
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Nice! Great idea and well executed. 8) :smiley: :smiley:
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Thanks guys. :smiley:
I don't know what it is, possibly the telephoto lens of the smart phone, but Titch always looks massive when I photo her on the workbench.
She is actually quite a small cat, probably half the size of our other two. She is a daddies girl and always visits me in the back bedroom, unfortunately she has no concept of kit bashing so she jumps up oblivious of the sharp things, pointy things, nasty substances and open paint pots. I have to take a few minutes time out and fuss her for a bit.
I have a Bristol Boxkite in the pipeline and I will have to exclude her from the room when I get to the rigging. When I was rigging the Sopwith Pup she paid me a visit and dropped hair all over the workspace.
Around three times I tried to fit a cat hair to the aircraft :o
Mog
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Nice one, I like it :smiley: :smiley:
How long did it take to figure that one out ?
Mog
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That came out very nice!