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Offline ptdockyard

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Re: Profile Requests
« Reply #100 on: July 31, 2020, 10:03:49 PM »
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Another might be simply that the Germans and Italians are looking for a option other than Ju87s for the Graf Zeppelin/Aquila.

My thought here exactly!

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Re: Profile Requests
« Reply #101 on: August 01, 2020, 02:37:29 AM »
I must admit that a D4Y2 in a scheme similar to these would be cool.  Though depending upon when, would they serve with the Regia Aeronautica Italiana or the Aeronautica Nazionale Repubblicana?




Whilst it makes sense, the Italian naval schemes might be a tad boring...



Of course, one could also do something different and also do a D4Y2 in something such as Hungarian or Swedish schemes (I'm sure suitable back stories could be written) with schemes such as:



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Offline apophenia

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Re: Profile Requests
« Reply #102 on: August 01, 2020, 08:41:49 AM »
... Whilst it makes sense, the Italian naval schemes might be a tad boring...

Could do a whif scheme with the overall Grigio Azzurro Chiaro 1 overlaid with a smoke rings pattern in Grigio Azzurro Scuro 3.
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Offline ptdockyard

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Re: Profile Requests
« Reply #103 on: August 01, 2020, 09:31:11 PM »
Not all the Italian Naval schemes were boring.  Form Apophenia's excellent drawings..

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Re: Profile Requests
« Reply #104 on: August 02, 2020, 01:51:03 AM »
Touché  :smiley:
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Offline arc3371

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Re: Profile Requests
« Reply #105 on: August 19, 2020, 05:06:06 AM »
Got a request that I hope someone is willing to do, a LTV A-7F (aka A-7D+) in an Aéronavale scheme

Offline Gingie

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Re: Profile Requests
« Reply #106 on: November 04, 2020, 02:06:48 AM »
Can someone do a half-track AVGP Grizzly or Cougar? The rear two axles being the tracked portion.

Or a 4x4 LAV-2 with those snowmobile tracks that you can retro fit to quads etc.

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Re: Profile Requests
« Reply #107 on: November 04, 2020, 08:40:55 AM »
Can someone do a half-track AVGP Grizzly or Cougar? The rear two axles being the tracked portion...

Hmmm, did one of those but now can't find it  ::)
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Re: Profile Requests
« Reply #108 on: November 05, 2020, 07:03:23 AM »
LOL, I wondered if I'd actually had an original idea for a second. I've probably seen yours back in the What-If Modelers forum days!

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Re: Profile Requests
« Reply #109 on: November 06, 2020, 06:35:34 AM »
I think the result would look a lot like the BMS Alacran or that Iranian prototype.





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Re: Profile Requests
« Reply #110 on: November 17, 2020, 10:25:02 AM »
Just when I think I've come up with something original!

Offline ptdockyard

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Re: Profile Requests
« Reply #111 on: March 20, 2021, 02:58:09 AM »
I think the Wendell-Williams XP-34 has a lot of potential. Here are plans and  an interesting page I found on Reddit. Of course I am thinking of a USN version but the AH ones are really cool!

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Offline M.A.D

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Re: Profile Requests
« Reply #112 on: July 20, 2021, 06:51:24 AM »
Has anyone got a profile drawing of either the towed Polsten Quad 20mm and the experimental Canadian 6x6 Chassis Quad 20mm anti-aircraft gun?

(P.S. my apologies I don't know the manufacturer or designation of the Canadian 6x6 armoured vehicle😔)

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« Reply #113 on: July 20, 2021, 09:39:59 AM »
... I don't know the manufacturer or designation of the Canadian 6x6 armoured vehicle...

M.A.D: Don't have any drawings but the 6x6 you're looking for is the John Inglis Company Quad Mount conversion (aka AEDB Project 41).

A few details on the vehicle itself. The base vehicle was a Canadian Ford 4x6 chassis converted to 6×6 drive under the Army Technical Development Board's late 1942 Project 48. Actual chassis conversions were performed by Windsor-based H.V. Welles Ltd., the Canadian distributors for the US-made Thornton rear bogies used.

In its first incarnation, ATDB's 6x6 was a gun tractor (two test articles being sent to the UK for trials). As an artillery tractor, the 6x6 didn't seem to impress.  Meanwhile, back in Dec 1942, the AEDB had approved development of two mobile, wheeled AA concepts - Projects 41 and 42. The former was the mount you're interested in (Project 42, the John Inglis twin-mount Polsten concept, having been cancelled in Feb 1943). BTW, the prototype vehicle in your photos had an unarmoured 'cab' on the Quad Mount ... so a bit of a working mock-up.

Project 41 was wound up after trials and the quad Polsten turrets ended up being mounted on Canadian Army CMP 4x4s instead.

-- https://milart.blog/2014/09/07/6x6-artillery-tractor/
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Offline M.A.D

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Re: Profile Requests
« Reply #114 on: July 20, 2021, 11:03:22 AM »
Thank you for the clarification apophenia.

Hope you and your family are well Stephen during these crazy times!

Nice to put a name to the vehicle.
It seems a very neat and compact design all in all.

Thanks again for your assistance.

MAD
« Last Edit: July 20, 2021, 11:05:15 AM by M.A.D »

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Re: Profile Requests
« Reply #115 on: July 22, 2021, 07:12:09 AM »
Glad that the Project 41 Quad Mount stuff was useful. That Project 48 6x6 was an interesting adaptation with very advanced 'body work' for those years. With a little development, it would have been a good combat support vehicle (being lower and potentially more tractable than the 4x4 CMP while quieter-running than the Universal Carrier).

My sense is that the poor overseas assessment of the 6x6 sprang from the usual cast of reasons:

1 - In their urgency to contribute to the war effort, the ATDB jumped the gun (no pun intended) and sent undeveloped prototype conversion gun tractors to the UK for testing;

2 - The British Army was already anticipating domestic designs to their own specs (and, from experience, Whitehall will have known that it would end up funding further Project 48 development);

3 - First Canadian Army strongly favoured British- or US-built equipment ... so we can add in the usual colonial neurotic self-loathing here  :P

Another thought is about RW access to the Thornton rear bogies. As Canadian distributor, these would have been the go-to for H.V. Welles. The question is: Was there surplus US capacity for these units?

Of course, none this need be of any concern for What-If. Eg: replacement bogies could have been designed. John Inglis might have offered the entire Project 41 Quad Mount engineering for sale overseas after WW2. Eg: if Australia bought the project, it might have been redesigned for a modern chassis instead of that obsolete Ford 4x6. Heaps of potential follow-on development there  :smiley:

... Hope you and your family are well Stephen during these crazy times!

Cheers Rob. All is well here ... although we're swamped with tourists on "essential travel" trips  :o   I trust that you and yours are well too!

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