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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: GTX_Admin on May 06, 2012, 04:45:57 AM

Title: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 06, 2012, 04:45:57 AM

Hi folks,

A thread for your Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Hampden_I_455_Sqn_RAAF_in_flight_1942.jpg)

Regards,

Greg

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 06, 2012, 04:47:26 AM

To begin with, here is a re-engined version I did a while back:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/02.jpg)

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 06, 2012, 04:48:23 AM

And a seaplane:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/Hampdenfp.jpg)

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 06, 2012, 04:50:19 AM

Now playing with some 'Intruder' variations - original and updated:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/Hampden-Intruder.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/Hampden-update.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/Hampden-updateII.jpg)

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 06, 2012, 04:51:11 AM

And one with a big honking gun - accessible via the bomb bay:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/Hampden-ATAS.jpg)

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 06, 2012, 04:54:55 AM

Now, playing with the idea of turning the Hampden into some sort of fighter:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/Hampdenfighter.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/HampdenNF.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/HampdenNF2.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/HampdenNF3.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/Hampdenfighterbc.jpg)

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 06, 2012, 04:55:54 AM

This may also be of interest:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/Hampdentt.jpg)

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 06, 2012, 04:56:37 AM

Something else that may be of use/interest:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/British_WW2_medium_bombers_comparison.png)

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Empty Handed on May 06, 2012, 07:33:13 AM

I have 2 of these that are WIPs. 1 will become a HP Hesperus NF.1 with Hercules engines and turbinlite in the nose and the other a "Blackburn Bangor" - something of an enlarged Blackburn Blackburn:

http://www.aviastar.org/air/england/black_blackburn.php (http://www.aviastar.org/air/england/black_blackburn.php)

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on May 06, 2012, 11:22:45 AM

Civvie:   Hawaiian Air Tours.   Passenger to the fore and to the aft for airborne panoramic enjoyment.


Gun nosed strafer nearly as above but USAAC Africa in Sand/Azure.   

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: RussC on May 06, 2012, 12:31:52 PM

After a bit of Canova or Burnelli influence to make it a wing body, the Whitley becomes a Electronics warfare platform. Equipped with the Jostle airborne director frequency jammer and piperack shield dipoles plus jammers for Wurzburg Riese and Freya.

 (http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5326/7147215781_741803582d_b.jpg)

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on May 06, 2012, 02:11:32 PM

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/HP52_01.jpg)

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/HP53_01.jpg)
The H.P.53 seaplane for the Swedes that formed the basis of the Dagger powered Hereford.

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/HP_M15-35_01.jpg)
September 1935 proposal, H.P. 52 wings and tail mated to a wider fuselage with room for
a circular mid-upper turret, tail-boom cross-section enlarged near junction to main fuselage
,largest size torpedoes could be carried internally. - H-P Aircraft since 1907, C.H. Barnes

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: upnorth on May 06, 2012, 03:28:59 PM

A few ideas I had for the Hampden:

1:
Completely stripped version for Recce and other work that doesn't require armament.

Delete and fair over the spine and belly turret positions and create a system of pop-in mission specific modules to go in the weapons bay area. The idea would be that, when the aircraft got reassigned, the downtime would be minimised as the module could simply be switched and the aircraft could be on it's way again. A common attachment system would be built into the weapons bay area and all modules would work with it. All variants would keep a glased nose for missions where an extra crew member was needed.

Some module ideas:
Variety of modules with recce camera arrangements
High speed courier and transport module
Target tug module
Combination bomb pannier and gun packet module (Sort of like an earlier Canberra B.I.8 )
Torpedo modules in single or double recessed versions
Fuel module for long range ferrying

2:
Floatplane variant for rescue and recovery work.

Upper gun station could be deleted or converted to a spotter position and the lower station could be replaced with a ramp that could be lowered and used to slide bodies into the refitted weapons bay from the water.

3:
Widen the fuselage so it can have a proper co-pilot or one of the other crew members actually can get to the cockpit and keep flying the machine if the pilot is killed. After that, give the plane back to Bomber Command.

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 06, 2012, 03:41:34 PM

I like the floatplane version.

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on May 07, 2012, 02:55:09 PM

Early Pathfinder variant, with 2 small H2S style " bubbles" on either side of the now enclosed nose. Known as the Handley Page Hamster. :)


Alvis 3.1

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 07, 2012, 03:42:01 PM

 ;D

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on May 08, 2012, 01:54:12 AM

Quote from: upnorth on May 06, 2012, 03:28:59 PM

3:
Widen the fuselage so it can have a proper co-pilot or one of the other crew members actually can get to the cockpit and keep flying the machine if the pilot is killed. After that, give the plane back to Bomber Command.

Contrary to myth the pilot's compartment is accessible from inside the aircraft and his seat-back was designed to detach.
So, theoretically, if he had time to engage the auto-pilot, the pilot could be pulled out of his seat and his place taken by
another crew member.

Anyhow, the Brit bombers didn't have 'co-pilots'.  ;D

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on May 08, 2012, 02:36:14 AM

Quote from: upnorth on May 06, 2012, 03:28:59 PM

3:
Widen the fuselage so it can have a proper co-pilot or one of the other crew members actually can get to the cockpit and keep flying the machine if the pilot is killed. After that, give the plane back to Bomber Command.

The original Halifax design was basically a widened Hampden although slightly bigger.

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on May 08, 2012, 04:59:10 AM

Yep, the H.P. 55.

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/HP55_01.jpg)

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: dwg on May 08, 2012, 10:58:37 PM

I just happened to rough-up an HP-55 in a Halifax scheme a few weeks ago.

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 09, 2012, 03:22:24 AM

Nice

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: upnorth on May 09, 2012, 01:46:27 PM

Interesting.

You learn something new every day. :)

Title: "Big Honking Gun" X 2, "...Some Sort of Fighter"
Post by: sequoiaranger on May 25, 2012, 12:44:16 AM

Here is a Swiss "Handley-Page Helvetian" bomber-destroyer I made (1/72 scale) from a 1/100-scale FROG Hampden fuselage, with "Alpine" camo. I put Mosquito wings and engines on it (same planform), and a twin-40mm cannon in the nose. The 1/72 Hampden itself is really skinny, and the 1/100 version is even MORE skinny, but.....!

(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv173/sequoiaranger/Handley-PageHelvetican02.jpg)

Title: Re: "Big Honking Gun" X 2, "...Some Sort of Fighter"
Post by: RussC on May 25, 2012, 04:33:05 AM

Quote from: sequoiaranger on May 25, 2012, 12:44:16 AM

Here is a Swiss "Handley-Page Helvetian" bomber-destroyer I made (1/72 scale) from a 1/100-scale FROG Hampden fuselage, with "Alpine" camo. I put Mosquito wings and engines on it (same planform), and a twin-40mm cannon in the nose. The 1/72 Hampden itself is really skinny, and the 1/100 version is even MORE skinny, but.....!

Wow! excellent build and camo idea.

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: dogsbodymk1 on May 28, 2012, 02:01:54 AM

Widen the fusalage and fit a nose turret and a 4-gun BP dorsal turret. Replace the Pegasus engines with Hercules or Centaurus engines.



Chris

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on July 15, 2012, 01:56:59 AM

Airfix Hampden and two Pr.XIX engine/propellor assemblies from the same manufacturer with some Quickboost exhausts.   Sand, rescribe carefully, paint/role to be determined by the builder.   

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 15, 2012, 04:08:37 AM

Quote from: Daryl J. on July 15, 2012, 01:56:59 AM

Airfix Hampden and two Pr.XIX engine/propellor assemblies from the same manufacturer with some Quickboost exhausts.   Sand, rescribe carefully, paint/role to be determined by the builder.

Popcorn ready...

Title: Re: Handley Page HP.52 Hampden Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on July 15, 2012, 08:26:59 AM

Quote

Popcorn ready...

I just measured up the Valom 1/72 Hampden and the Airfix Pr.XIX Spitfire.   The popcorn might get stale.   :icon_crap: