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Offline Rickshaw

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P-8 Poseidon
« on: February 22, 2014, 02:48:15 PM »
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2014, 10:41:29 PM »
Doesn't the RAAF have the Wedgetail too, makes sense to keep a common airframe --
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2014, 11:58:20 PM »
Sweet!

So when's the RCAF getting some?
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2014, 12:07:33 AM »
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2014, 07:41:35 AM »
Quote from: kitnut617 on February 22, 2014, 10:41:29 PM
Doesn't the RAAF have the Wedgetail too, makes sense to keep a common airframe --


Yep.  And 737 BBJ.



Will be interesting to see if the airframe/engine maintenance for all three is combined in one deal.
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2014, 08:07:08 AM »
Yes but they are looking for a replacement for the BBJ now, something larger I believe.  Common sense for the RAAF would be an A330 but I wouldn't be surprised if its a 787 with extra bicycle storage  ;)
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2014, 09:14:48 AM »
Quote from: Volkodav on February 23, 2014, 08:07:08 AM
Yes but they are looking for a replacement for the BBJ now, something larger I believe.  Common sense for the RAAF would be an A330 but I wouldn't be surprised if its a 787 with extra bicycle storage  ;)

Perhaps they can use them instead of the batteries which keep overheating?  ;)
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2014, 10:37:57 AM »
The intel I have heard is that there are two A330s lined up already - so, instead of Kevin747 we can have AirbusAnthony...
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2014, 10:39:36 AM »
But moving back on track, how about a RAF P-8?
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2014, 10:46:13 AM »
And perhaps a RAF EP-8 as a more modern Rivet Joint airframe?  Especially appropriate since the mod center (L3 Communications Integrated Systems Division of Greenville and Waco, TX) that does Rivet Joint aircraft also deals with EP-3's and has converted BBJ's and other airframes (the private 777 for a Saudi prince was really a piece of work).
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2014, 11:46:52 AM »
Always thought the 757 would have been a good platform for various special adaptions.  I know Boeing proposed a 757 ASW version that lost out to the P-7 but could also have seen it in AEW, ELINT, VIP and even tanker transport versions.
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2014, 12:03:28 PM »
Quote from: Volkodav on February 23, 2014, 11:46:52 AM
Always thought the 757 would have been a good platform for various special adaptions.  I know Boeing proposed a 757 ASW version that lost out to the P-7 but could also have seen it in AEW, ELINT, VIP and even tanker transport versions.


A few years back, Rob and I over at Whiff did some 757s like that. I did the base line art and he did the military conversions and made profiles of them. http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,20663.msg424210.html#msg424210 Starting from here and continuing on for many pages...
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2014, 12:10:52 PM »
Excellent, I may need to join to have a look.
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Offline Rickshaw

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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2014, 03:33:49 PM »
Didn't the Japanese adopt a 757 as an AEW platform?
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2014, 04:44:52 PM »
767 AEW
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2014, 10:52:59 PM »
Quote from: elmayerle on February 23, 2014, 10:46:13 AM
And perhaps a RAF EP-8 as a more modern Rivet Joint airframe?  Especially appropriate since the mod center (L3 Communications Integrated Systems Division of Greenville and Waco, TX) that does Rivet Joint aircraft also deals with EP-3's and has converted BBJ's and other airframes (the private 777 for a Saudi prince was really a piece of work).

Got one of those in the works, picked up some 'cheek' fairings the other day and I've talked with Densil at Welsh Models to see if I can buy a 737-800 without the decals as I'll get my own marking for it.
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2014, 10:53:39 PM »
Quote from: Volkodav on February 23, 2014, 04:44:52 PM
767 AEW

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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2014, 06:35:16 AM »
There was a rumour around about a decade ago that the USAF had a black programme for a LO tactical tanker, probably headed up by Lockheed.  The idea was a 727 / 737 sized airframe but faster and using LO profiling / materials that could go into contested airspace and support all the F-22 / F-35 etc.  Such a design would have been great fro MPA and other specialist roles.  Can't help but think it would have ended up looking a bit like a Nimrod or a V-bomber though, with engines buried in the wing roots etc.
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2014, 11:51:00 AM »
Quote from: Volkodav on February 24, 2014, 06:35:16 AM
There was a rumour around about a decade ago that the USAF had a black programme for a LO tactical tanker, probably headed up by Lockheed.  The idea was a 727 / 737 sized airframe but faster and using LO profiling / materials that could go into contested airspace and support all the F-22 / F-35 etc.  Such a design would have been great fro MPA and other specialist roles.  Can't help but think it would have ended up looking a bit like a Nimrod or a V-bomber though, with engines buried in the wing roots etc.
The study was called "MACK" and yes, the engines were buried that way.  A think a couple pictures showed up in Aviation Week and I've attached a lo-res scan of one.
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2014, 12:10:58 PM »
Excellent, thanks for that.
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2014, 12:14:06 PM »
Am I they only one who has reservations about basically sending an AIRLINER to war? We could have built a both better and cheaper MMA by modifying and renovating Boneyard BUFFs... other than the love affair that the dip-ShipHighInTransit diplomats have with Commies, who especially hate and fear the B-52 by name.
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2014, 12:16:17 PM »
I've always thought that a variation on the proposed "lambda-wing" design that was part of Lockheed's C-5 effort could give you a l-o stol aircraft (not on the C-5's scale, but something comparable with, say, a C-130.  I've got a few ideas in the back of my head...
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2014, 12:56:38 PM »
Always liked the Nimrod layout and thought a completely new airframe designed around the same concept as the Nimrod MR4/2000 would have been a better way to go for the money spent.  Not a full LO but part way there and designed from the outset for MPA, ECR, tactical tanking etc.  Maybe even a capability as a medium / long range cruise missile carrier thrown in.
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2014, 02:48:50 PM »
Quote from: Diamondback on February 24, 2014, 12:14:06 PM
Am I they only one who has reservations about basically sending an AIRLINER to war? We could have built a both better and cheaper MMA by modifying and renovating Boneyard BUFFs...

Worked well for the Nimrod, Orion, not to mention others.  A B-52 based MPA would be far from economical plus would not be as effective given the role.

Quote from: Diamondback on February 24, 2014, 12:14:06 PM
other than the love affair that the dip-ShipHighInTransit diplomats have with Commies, .

WTF?!  How are comments like this of any use here?
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Re: P-8 Poseidon
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2014, 03:08:24 PM »
I'm not all read-in on P-8.  Do know from once working at Boeing (not on P-8).
1 > World wide maintenance infrastructure for 737 serves to lower opreational costs.
2 > P-8 is a fit for existing navy runways, taxiways, hangers.
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