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Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« on: August 03, 2012, 02:30:18 PM »
Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2012, 11:20:55 PM »
Mirage-2000 Zen

BTW, this could be a conplement of JoseFer's design: a Mirage 2000 with Typhoon canopy.

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2012, 03:21:29 AM »
Nice.
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2012, 03:22:02 AM »
How about a West German Mirage 2000 or a Japanese or South Korean one?
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2012, 04:30:24 AM »
 :) :)
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2012, 11:41:53 PM »
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2012, 01:51:44 AM »
I'd simply put mine in IDF markings.   
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2013, 03:58:51 AM »
Recce nose.   The long Kfir-like one.
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2013, 08:31:38 AM »
How about a simplified one along the lines of the Mirage 5/50
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2013, 10:14:55 AM »
A dedicated reconnaissance variant seems like a waste of a platform now that there are digital systems that do not require a battery of cameras to image the targets by direct overflight.  Much of what used to be done by the dedicated reconnaissance aircraft can now be accomplished with a video recording device linked to the FLIR and EO systems in the various targeting pods that are now carried.  So you have a situation where any aircraft can be used to perform the ISR mission if it has the right pod attached to it.  Some of the larger camera systems with very long focal lengths that are preferred because of their ability to image targets from outside of the air defense envelope are better off carried in a large pod instead of inside the aircraft due to the physical size.  You see these types of pods on the Mirage F.1 as an example with a very large optical window on the side of the pod for oblique imaging that does not require the aircraft to overfly the target. 
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2013, 12:03:43 AM »
I had no idea.    :).   Photos by chance?    (Daryl immediately drops from Mirage Mode into 1950's Northrop delta winged prototypes such as the N-176 and goes anachronistic).


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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2013, 02:48:12 AM »
I believe Jeff is referring to pods such as the Reconnaissance Airborne Pod Tornado (RAPTOR) pod:



or the related Goodrich DB-110 reconnaissance pod:



You can actually get the RAPTOR in both 1/72 and 1/48:



Sure, this is the practical real world solution...but who cares? ;)
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2013, 02:56:00 AM »
Quote
Sure, this is the practical real world solution...but who cares? ;)

Yep. 

If you can find a way to fit the Mirage III R nose to the Mirage 2000 it might work. 

Another option might be to kit bash a reconnaissance nose from a smaller scale subject to a larger Mirage 2000 to make it work with a minimum of PSR. 

I am still stuck trying to do the exact opposite in adapting a more functional looking radaome to a Mirage IV.  My first attempt was to use a 1:72nd scale F-15 radome on a section of the Mirage IV nose with some material removed to get the diameters of both parts to match up.  This was going good until I started sanding away and the still uncured glue inside was exposed to the sanding process.  It got a bit ugly.  I put it away for a while but it never looked quite right after that so I pulled it all apart and now it sits waiting to be dealt with again. 
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2013, 04:01:13 PM »
I'd simply be inclined to give it two engines and leave it at that. It's such a lovely design that I wouldn't want to clutter it up.

Besides, the Mirage IV and Mirage 4000 both showed how good a Mirage could look with a pair of engines.
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2013, 04:18:59 PM »
What if Vietnam re-established good relations with France and acquired some Mirage 2000s...possibly as a prelude to Rafales?
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2013, 05:52:31 AM »
I'd simply be inclined to give it two engines and leave it at that. It's such a lovely design that I wouldn't want to clutter it up.
Mirage 2000 with a pair of Rafale engines?  That could look quite striking.

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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2013, 06:41:00 PM »
Mirage 2000 was proposed with two RB-199 engines for European Fighter competition (eventually lead to Rafale, Typhoon) during early phases (when it was called Tactical Combat Aircraft or TCA). It may have been designated Mirage 3000.

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2014, 05:31:11 AM »
Along with the Mirage III/V/F1, I'd love to do the 2 Seater Mirage 2000 in Canadian markings.   
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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2015, 07:16:33 PM »
Greg's wish for a 1/48 Mirage 4000 gave me an idea:

Mirage X000 heavy fighter/interceptor - using a 1/48 Mirage 2000 and 1/72 F-15 Eagle forward fuselage

The Mirage's fuselage has been chopped in height a bit (about 15cm/6in in real life), so as to facilitate splicing-in the Eagle's forward fuselage. I suppose you could drop it a bit more to give it a more elegant neck line, much like on the actual Eagle, although the more I look at it, the more I like it the way it is. The nozzle was also chopped, meaning it would probably use two engines (as the actual Mirage 4000 did). The fin is still the same size. Viggen-style main landing gear to give it that "heavy fighter look".

Four Matra Super 530D medium-range AAMs semi-recessed on the fuselage? Or use the 1/48 missiles in 1/72 for long-range AAMs?

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2015, 10:38:39 PM »
Hello , i was thinking of a what-if profile for the Mirage 2000, of a new model called Mirage 2000 +, a concept similar to the F-20,F-16 Block 60 and the Gripen NG, a Mirage with some upgrades wich would be: a new cockpit with state of the art avionics, capability for new payload, the engine would stay the same since i think its good enough, i wanted to add cft,s however, to increase its range but im not sure thats possible within the 2000 limited airframe space, and so i had the idea of coming here, does anyone have a idea of how we can fit cft,s on the Mirage 2000,s body? they dont need to be everywhere..

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Re: Mirage 2000/3000/4000 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2015, 03:22:20 AM »
I would possibly just try using something similar to the Rafale ones:



Or as you said, the Gripen ones (which I don't believe ever went past a drawing):

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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2015, 04:06:00 AM »
I think the Rafale one is better, id try to fit some cft,s on the ''free'' part on the upper surface of the fuselage around the start of the intake.

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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2015, 08:54:31 PM »
I was just looking at dams post on the IPMS Pessac show and the first photo has a Tiger Meet Mirage 2000 front and centre that at first glance looked to have Indonesian roundels / pentagons (I wasn't wearing my glasses) instead of French, which got me thinking why not an Indonesian AF Mirage 2000?  In the standard French blue and grey scheme an Indonesian bird would look fantastic, actually I find the Indonesian red bordered white pentagon marking very striking and think they set off many schemes that are nothing special otherwise.

Thinking some more on it (over thinking as I usually do) I was wondering what would see Indonesia flying Mirages, buying new Australian built aircraft, gifted used Australian aircraft, buying straight from France, ex-French aircraft loaned prior to delivery of Rafales, then it hit me, Dutch built aircraft.  My thinking is instead of Starfighters and then F-16s the Dutch instead build Mirage III, F-1 and 2000, exporting examples to Indonesia each major build.

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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2015, 03:04:15 AM »

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