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Major Powers political shift

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Old Wombat:
Amazing what a little support (elsewhere) can do for a mood! :))

So, I'll try this again, only word it differently:

What If ...

Post-World War 1, the USA became a quasi-democratic Communist state (ie: only various factions of the Communist ideology being eligible to elected office), while Russia became a Westminster-based bicameral democratic constitutional monarchy, with Grand Duke Mikhail Alexandrovich Romanov replacing his brother, Nikolai II, as Tsar ...

Discuss?

Old Wombat:
First thing that strikes me, in relation to world civil & military aviation, is that Igor Ivanovich Sikorsky & Alexandr Nikolaievich Prokofiev de Seversky probably wouldn't have emigrated to the US, meaning that their aviation expertise & inventiveness would have remained in Russia.

Any ideas on who would try to/probably flee the USA to, say Canada, the UK or ... Russia? ???

Fairly sure Henry Ford would remain in the US, he was quite the supporter of the Leninist/Stalinist USSR in the RW.

Howard Hughes would certainly give it a try, & probably succeed.

elmayerle:
Instead of a Bolshevik revolution in the USA in 1918/1920, suppose we had something like Harry Turtledove's Joe Steele happening in the 1930's and beyond?

M.A.D:

--- Quote ---(anyone who thinks the USSR was anything else than a dictatorship and thinks that is what true Socialism is supposed to look like doesn't have a clue)
--- End quote ---

Refreshing to know that someone else appriciates this!!

Interesting scenario Old Wombat!

Although a little later in terms of your timeline,
I not long ago read The Untold History of the United States by Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick. It quoted Vice President Henry A. Wallace stating that both powers/ideologies (Capitalism and Communism) should be allowed to openly compete with one another (so without enacting Truman's 'Containment' policy.)
So, if Wallace's notion was used, then I'm thinking that countries/governments might swing to and from capitalism to communism visa versa.....and as GTX correctly states, there's a very big difference between communism and socialism, so the United States might not be as quick to brand every country that wanted independence from their colonial master - aka nationalism, as 'Communists' and as part of the fear toting 'Domino Effect'. Hence we probably wouldn't see as many of the atrocious CIA/MI5/KGB lead/sponsored/delivered Putsch/Coup Detat! Maybe we'd see more countries consolidating their natural resources for their own national benifits - namely thier own economies, without British, French, Dutch and American interventions underbrush guise of 'communism' threat, as opposed to the threat to British, French, Dutch and American corporate investment and profits.
I'm thinking in such an environment, we'd probably most likely see more Yugoslavia/Romania-types who were at ease using mixes of both Western and Eastern weapons systems/platforms because of their actual cost and capability vs political affiliation and sponsorship....
Maybe also as a consequence of such competitive arrangement, the likes of the atrocious political opertunistic engineered strategies like the Red Scare and Red Baiting makes better non belligerent societies of some countries.....

Just ideas mate.... 😉

MAD

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