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Communist aligned Israel

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Litvyak:
The Yugo aero industry is way too infrequently brought up! :)

upnorth:

--- Quote from: elmayerle on May 20, 2013, 10:07:25 AM ---You have to wonder, if the Soviets supported Israel, would they then, in turn, support the Muslim nations around her or would they stay "hands off"?  And if they didn't support them, who would they turn to?  I could see a Soviet-supported Israel surrounded by French- and British-supported Muslim countries.  I can't see the US getting involved there unless drawn in by events since they wouldn't, at the time, have a "dog in that hunt".

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It would be a very difficult situation if real world events were followed. The various agreements about mandates between Britain and France in the Arab world created a lot of ill feelings towards both countries in that part of the world.

The Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916 created a lot of problems with long lasting repercussions. The replacement of the establishment of the League of Nations Mandates in 1919 did nothing to change matters.

Syria was a real wild card state politically from 1946 to 1956, subject to several coups and overthrows until signing a pact with the Soviet Union in 1956.

Lebanon could be seen as a bit more predicable and likely to be French supplied. 

Jordan would, with Iraq, be almost assuredly British supplied as both had been British protectorates for several years.

To keep Egypt from being Soviet supplied, one would have to circumvent the Suez Crisis somehow.

I suspect strongly that had the Suez Crisis been averted, Egypt likely would have chosen to be non-aligned. By the early 1950s, the Helwan aircraft factory had been established thus showing the ability to develop a domestic defense industry in Egypt.

upnorth:

--- Quote from: Litvyak on May 20, 2013, 02:19:07 PM ---The Yugo aero industry is way too infrequently brought up! :)

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Yes and I should know better than to ignore it being as how I live in the Czech Republic, a small country with a very impressive domestic aircraft industry.

Also, geographically speaking, the former Yugoslavia would be in a great position to help Israel.

MaxHeadroom:
A "red" Israel is no Utopia: remember the socialist roots of the Kibbuz-movement.
A lot of the founding fathers of Israel were born in czaristic Russia and also fighting with the russian socialists against monarchic oppression.
Without the votes of the Soviet Union and it's satellites, Israel might not have gotten enough votes in the UN-assembly 1948, which was necessary to declare independece. This could have produced a feeling of "thank you" to Israel and makes the midwife-USSR to a close friend.
The fact, post war West Germany was supported by the western allies to bring it back to (economic) strenght  might disappoint new born Israel and push it into Stalin's (Germany punishing) arms.

But Stalin has prevent it by his own works: he has had a phobia to jews and did only support Israel in the UN-assembly by political tactics!

Norbert

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