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Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => Red Star Soviet GB => Topic started by: Frank3k on April 03, 2017, 02:46:06 AM

Title: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: Frank3k on April 03, 2017, 02:46:06 AM
вдохновение

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Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: LemonJello on April 04, 2017, 07:23:21 AM
Comrades! It has come to the attention of  The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production that there has been a grave oversight in the establishment of this Group Build!

There is no official thread for the posting of ideas and inspiration to further enflame the proletariat and encourage more of our illustrious membership to take part in the march of relentless socialist zeal!

This is now such a place. Post your ideas and inspiring links, photos, diagrams, etc here for all.

(http://img03.deviantart.net/86a4/i/2014/014/a/c/steampunk_soviet_flag_by_wolfguy13-d726riq.png)

Due to this embarrassing omission, Oleg Froyoskov, the Sixth Deputy Secretary for Frozen Yogurt Treats, of The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production has been "reassigned" to an undetermined period of years in the #17 Рыбная ферма Красного Октября (Red October Sprue Farm).

Poor Oleg, seen here in happier times:
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01648/lenin-stalin_1648528i.jpg)

His replacement: Katerina, seen here arriving for the morning meeting.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/f3/ae/82/f3ae82c350ca0ad49f0ecc63f19064cf.jpg)



Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: LemonJello on April 04, 2017, 07:28:12 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e8/1d/53/e81d53819b581d698a7d922f7f6fdcf3.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/6d/1e/66/6d1e66cc56dc40901c99631256590225.jpg)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: LemonJello on April 05, 2017, 02:14:33 AM
Привлекайте других к нашей великой борьбе

Recruit others to our great struggle!

Comrades! Members of this Modelling Collective known as Beyond the Sprues! Now is the time! This is the place! Come join the march to a new dawn of soviet comradeship as we defend the Motherland from the decadent western so-called "democracies"!

Our glorious air forces are growing stronger every day, BUT! We have need of vehicles for the Red Army, the shield of our great nation! We also must have ships for the Red Banner fleets in order to keep those cursed naval forces of the west far from our shores!

Svetlana, The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production's Second Deputy for Encouraging Recalcitrant Members, is vigilantly ready to "convince" you to participate.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/2b/a0/b0/2ba0b0640d485f17c9b8674287d211f5.jpg)

За славу, победу и Родину!
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: taiidantomcat on April 05, 2017, 02:28:25 AM
Stuff from Red Star Comicbook series:

(http://theredstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/redstar-bannerdraft2.png)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Uk7kEdTCfio/UUZWnnVtPwI/AAAAAAAACUU/YYA8r_HZzOc/s1600/REDSTAR0145.jpg)

(http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Alexandra-Goncharova-Red-Star-krawl-h4.jpg)

(http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Alexandra-Goncharova-Red-Star-Comics-b.jpg)


Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: taiidantomcat on April 05, 2017, 02:40:31 AM
More Abstract, (and its a 6 pointed star obviously) but the look is very "Russian/Soviet" to my eye:

(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/546986bee4b07c8a3da8af42/546c2329e4b03de5520500c2/546d348ae4b02b68ecaa4a75/1416443019301/EK_19_Stenning.jpg?format=1000w)

(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/546986bee4b07c8a3da8af42/5828e8656b8f5be4d0294065/5828ec451b631bf14c215359/1479076935642/EKCS_03_Stenning.jpg?format=1000w)

(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/546986bee4b07c8a3da8af42/546c2329e4b03de5520500c2/546d348ce4b05dcff10d7da7/1416443021167/EK_23_Stenning.jpg?format=1000w)


By Derek Stenning
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 05, 2017, 02:59:16 AM
More Abstract, (and its a 6 pointed star obviously) but the look is very "Russian/Soviet" to my eye:


Perhaps it is part of a Communist Israel...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRV5bNvnFQ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRV5bNvnFQ8)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: LemonJello on April 05, 2017, 03:19:59 AM
Detroit has nothing on our automobile industry!

(http://weirdrussia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/andrey-tkachenko-kolkhida-racing-transport-print.jpg)

(http://www.gaz21volga.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/andrej_tkachenko_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: LemonJello on April 05, 2017, 03:22:55 AM
(http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/TcCZbj_WlpI/AAAAAAABeHQ/HefdBJzMPV0/s800/nuclear-powerd-zeppelin.jpg)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: taiidantomcat on April 06, 2017, 04:16:27 AM
https://youtu.be/ZNuh2cdMVBA (https://youtu.be/ZNuh2cdMVBA)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 07, 2017, 02:03:40 AM
Maybe some inspiration from the real world (kind of - imagine if the USSR was still in existence rather than plain ol' Russia): 

Quote
Russia Submits MiG-29 Plane Delivery Terms to Argentina
(Source: TASS-Defense; published April 5, 2017)
RIO DE JANEIRO --- Russia has submitted terms of the delivery of Mikoyan MiG-29 (NATO reporting name: Fulcrum) fighter jets to Argentina, Deputy Head of the Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation Anatoly Punchuk told TASS.

"Argentina has shown interest in the delivery of MiG-29 planes," said Punchuk, who had headed the Russian delegation at the LAAD 2017 international arms exhibition.

"All proposals have been submitted to it. Now, our Argentinian partners are considering the Russian proposals concerning the delivery of MiG-29 planes," he added.

According to Punchuk, planes of the type are suitable for Argentina’s Armed Forces and for operation in local geographical conditions.

"However, military hardware delivery contracts should have a comprehensive nature and envisage the establishment of repair and maintenance facilities, the training of specialists and the delivery of spare parts and components. Thus, it is too early to speak about the time when the contract will be signed and the delivery will begin," Punchuk said.

According to him, Russia is ready to continue cooperation in this area.

-ends-
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: Logan Hartke on April 07, 2017, 04:19:34 AM
Interesting. Peru's been operating the MiG-29 for 20 years and—as I understand it—they're fairly happy with them. Argentina also recently acquired two Mil Mi-17E/171s for use in the Antarctic, and I think they're liking them, too, so they're somewhat familiar with the process of buying and operating Russian equipment.

There's nothing inherently impractical about this plan, but it would seem to be more of a vanity purchase or a capabilities display than a practical solution for a country intending to operate the aircraft regularly. Considering Argentina's money troubles, the MiG-29 is cheap (which is good) but is considered a bit expensive to operate (which is bad). Its serviceability rate isn't great and its engines guzzle fuel rather than sipping it. Also, as I understand it, recommended time between overhauls is rather short and much of that work needs to be done in Russia. MiG has also been heavily criticized for its poor after-sales support. I've read a lot on that point from Malaysia, Hungary, Algeria, India, and Iran. Hungary's already retired theirs and Malaysia isn't too far behind (they've already threatened once).

This isn't the worst idea, but I kind of doubt it'll actually happen. The MiG-29 is only "cheap" by comparison to other aircraft and if the Kfir proved to be too rich for their blood, I suspect the MiG-29 won't fair any better.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: elmayerle on April 19, 2017, 12:49:49 PM
Throwing out an idea for a parts-box build.  The Su-15 looks to share a basic wing with the Su-11 and Su-9 while the Su-9 shares a fuselage with the Su-7.  How about mating a Su-7I, or Su-17 wing, and guns, with a SU-15 fuselage for a predecessor/complement to the Su-24?  Perhaps with a nose pitched down for greater ground target visibility?
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: taiidantomcat on April 19, 2017, 10:19:00 PM
Always liked the look of Soviet "rocketry"

(http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/images/abmssams1.jpg)

ABM/interceptors

(https://image.slidesharecdn.com/masterpresentationfinal-160201131819/95/development-of-neurofuzzy-control-system-for-the-guidance-of-air-to-air-missiles-master-thesis-9-638.jpg?cb=1457868522)
AAMs

(https://i.cbc.ca/1.2711753.1406172403!/cpImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_1180/ukraine-crash-weaponry-missiles.jpg)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 20, 2017, 01:58:46 AM
Throwing out an idea for a parts-box build.  The Su-15 looks to share a basic wing with the Su-11 and Su-9 while the Su-9 shares a fuselage with the Su-7.  How about mating a Su-7I, or Su-17 wing, and guns, with a SU-15 fuselage for a predecessor/complement to the Su-24?  Perhaps with a nose pitched down for greater ground target visibility?


Like this?

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/Su15VG2.jpg)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: elmayerle on April 20, 2017, 07:28:48 AM
Throwing out an idea for a parts-box build.  The Su-15 looks to share a basic wing with the Su-11 and Su-9 while the Su-9 shares a fuselage with the Su-7.  How about mating a Su-7I, or Su-17 wing, and guns, with a SU-15 fuselage for a predecessor/complement to the Su-24?  Perhaps with a nose pitched down for greater ground target visibility?


Like this?

([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/Su15VG2.jpg[/url])

Precisely.  Though I might figure out how to add the wing root cannons, too.
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: ChernayaAkula on April 20, 2017, 05:46:19 PM
^ If you're going for the Flogger's duckbill nose, the GSh-6-30 might also be an option.  :)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 22, 2017, 04:45:34 AM
Some particularly relevant inspiration from The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production:

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Military/Science-and-Technology-Museum/i-Ss3LnbT/0/X3/TractorMuseum-01-X3.jpg)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: Frank3k on April 22, 2017, 06:30:57 AM
So Ericr has fans in Russia!

The yellow and dark blue tractors at the rear are Stalinetz S-65 (or similar)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 22, 2017, 06:38:01 AM
If you're interested in a ground attack Su-15, remember the Su-15Sh:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/Su-15Sh_zpshrnjlfcz.png)